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  1. #161
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    Khel's Avatar
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    Khel Pyke
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Keep as it is, its not perfect, but at least old content won't be a bottleneck. I started playing last year, had read about what was coming and watched the cuts after in the inn room. Was more than happy with that just to advance through the main story.
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  2. #162
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    this does nothing to help the new player base tho...
    Oh I never said it helped, but it at least came to their attention was the point being made in the first sentence. The current, and the post 4.2 changes are both bad for new players... Many people make bad decisions to say the least, but let's reserve the judgement until we actually see how rewards were adjusted, no?
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 01-27-2018 at 02:46 AM.

  3. #163
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Eh. All this means is new players will need to rely on their FC or party finder to do it. Not like it even was worth doing before. If they need to waste time on stupid stuff like bard perform and raid replay, and can't even make this into a solo instance, whatever.
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  4. #164
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    (snip) These two duties already have made some, not a whole lot, but some players quit over these cutscenes and impatience - now, very few players outside of helping their FC mates and good Samaritans every once in a while will run this.

    Good job.
    If a person quits over waiting a few minutes for a new player to watch a cutscene, then they have some bigger problems in their life. That is a stupid reason to quit a game.

    But I can understand the reaction to making cutscenes unskippable. I'm at the point where I chose the option in my General settings to not show cutscenes that have already been watched. But that begs the question ... if the scenes become unskippable, does that mean the party is all locked in that circle thing? Cause that is a bit heavy handed.

    The parties I've been in let the new players know that they will be burning through the dungeon, and if they want them to wait to see like .. the end boss or whatever .. to speak up. Which so far, no new player has. Of course, I've also read that it is 'written' that parties burn through the MSQ roulette. Which I understand as it is old ARR content and we are on SB now.

    But there is many extremes to deal with this ... which honestly, taking a few minutes to head to an Inn and watch the cutscenes (which BTW works perfectly fine) doesn't seem such a bad idea.
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  5. #165
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    I mean how hard would it to be to make these solo instances? Just nerf all the enemies to below "trash mob" levels, and make Ultima/Lahabrea it's own 8-man in the trial roulette.

    I'd imagine it's far less work than the dead on arrival "fashion report".
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  6. #166
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    But there is many extremes to deal with this ... which honestly, taking a few minutes to head to an Inn and watch the cutscenes (which BTW works perfectly fine) doesn't seem such a bad idea.
    It's not the same. Watching the cutscenes with breaks when they were supposed to have fights in between and maybe some in-instance dialog its just not the same. Which is why I'm all in favor of making it a solo instance, let every person decide for themselves how to handle that experience.
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  7. #167
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    Nextstep's Avatar
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    Nextstep Badger
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 70

    MSQ need to be changed... but not like this, Yoshi!

    Honestly?

    MSQ Roulette either needs to be scrapped, or have more relevance added to it. I'm sure it's been touched on in this thread before, by why don't we have more story relevant dungeons/Trials available to it? Atherochemical Lab, Doma Castle, Ala Mihgo. It is literally the Castrum or the Preatorium every time. For me at least.

    I mean.. it wouldn't be that hard one would think. Making the scenes unskippable will just create more of a time sink into dungeons that aren't even that fun due to repetition...
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  8. #168
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Eh. All this means is new players will need to rely on their FC or party finder to do it. Not like it even was worth doing before. If they need to waste time on stupid stuff like bard perform and raid replay, and can't even make this into a solo instance, whatever.
    I agree with this sentiment, whenever someone says they should be reworked someone else comes along trying to be clever and asks what you'd sacrifice to make that happen. Well, there is your answer, I'd sacrifice perform and raid replay.

    Cool features, but honestly I could have waited till 4.3, or 4.4. Or never being brutally honest, I'd never have missed them if they weren't added and the time had been spent fixing the main scenario duties instead.
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  9. #169
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    Big_Panda's Avatar
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    Bamboo Panda
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 76
    What is there left to be said, really?

    I have not done this roul since 4.0 dropped and I honestly see no reason to ever do that.

    When the new sprout in our FC eventually hits that point, I will just book one hour of free time for him/her turn in the fox hole.
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    Big panda is an awesome bear!

  10. #170
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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Well they tried so round of applause for actually caring about the newer player base to say the least.
    That's like saying it's a good thing to get shat on because it at least means your presence is being acknowledged.
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