Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Ruinfeild]

And they can get the banhammer for doing it it just depends if the people in the group will report them for doing that

I know its bannable but I forgot under the ToS where it is applied. I know I seen a few people do it who's 'internet' went out for a moment there. Every single cutscene it seems.

[Fayt1203]

I know its bannable but I forgot under the ToS where it is applied. I know I seen a few people do it who's 'internet' went out for a moment there. Every single cutscene it seems.

then they are doing it on purpose because if it only happens in cutscenes and not in between then it not because faulty internet its in the Tos about exploiting a ingame bug to gain things

[Gralna]

People now force DC during the longer cutscenes and then log back in, which skips the cutscene.

To reiterate, people doing this are putting their accounts at risk of being banned.

New Terms of Service

・Intentional leaving or disconnection
This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

[Ardox]

People now force DC during the longer cutscenes and then log back in, which skips the cutscene.

And they can get the banhammer for doing it it just depends if the people in the group will report them for doing that

Here's some of the rules

◆Obstruction of play
"Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play.
・Intentional leaving or disconnection
This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

■Misuse of flaws
"Misuse of flaws" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault in Final Fantasy XIV, or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.

Agreed: Obstruction is a very vague term.. anyway, tldr you risk to get banned

[Remus]

I don't mind people disconnecting, just means I have to do less for my roulette.

[Cylestea]

i've been people just out right alt f4ing out during the c/ses log back in and run in and pull bosses while everyone else is still in the c/s. this needs to be fixed. revert it back or make it so if they do that they have to rewatch ALL the c/ses from start to current as punishment

[Feronar]

An easy fix for the cutscene exploit would be to make it so whenever you start a cutscene in those dungeons, you get a debuff that immobilizes you, locks down all your attacks and abilities, and makes you invincible and invisible. This debuff would last for the full duration of the cutscene, so if watch the full cutscene, the debuff will expire at about the same time the cutscene ends. If you exploit to skip it, congratulations, you get to stare at a debuff for 5 minutes or however long the cutscene is.

[ShariusTC]

An easy fix for the cutscene exploit would be to make it so whenever you start a cutscene in those dungeons, you get a debuff that immobilizes you, locks down all your attacks and abilities, and makes you invincible and invisible. This debuff would last for the full duration of the cutscene, so if watch the full cutscene, the debuff will expire at about the same time the cutscene ends. If you exploit to skip it, congratulations, you get to stare at a debuff for 5 minutes or however long the cutscene is.

Tbh, i wish we could skip cs even if i have that debuff for 5 minutes, sometime, checking your character status or rearranged your inventory is more interesting than those cs

[Mirhd]

Rofl... in a MSQ roulette run where no one used the d/c exploit, but there are people trying to justify it with "it's their time, they can do what they want with it, exploit or no", and they're insisting it's not a bannable offense, that you can't ban someone for d/cing repeatedly to skip cutscenes, and that I'm "interpreting SE incorrectly", insisting I'm wrong. Kinda hope they try it sometime and that someone reports them for it. See how that goes. Wow.

Should mention, they kept excusing it as "what if its their internet going out", as if no one ever considers that. Uh, no, when the rest of us are in cutscenes while the d/cers are fighting bosses... and this occurs multiple times... no, it's not "their internet going out. For some reason these people could not understand something so simple, and that SE does not look on it kindly.

This whole, stupid argument started because I mentioned it was kinda silly to leave the sprout (a legit new player as they stated, not a reroll) behind when they forgot to grab the key for the magitek armour. I directed them to the key, but everyone went on, pointed out the roulette is fior new players, not US, and... well, went from there. Honestly, I'm disinclined to run it again, considering how many people insist they're entitled to the exp, and that it's a "requirement" to level a class. It's... really not. It's not for you or me, it's for the new players. Don't be a jerk.

[Cylestea]

Rofl... in a MSQ roulette run where no one used the d/c exploit, but there are people trying to justify it with "it's their time, they can do what they want with it, exploit or no", and they're insisting it's not a bannable offense, that you can't ban someone for d/cing repeatedly to skip cutscenes, and that I'm "interpreting SE incorrectly", insisting I'm wrong. Kinda hope they try it sometime and that someone reports them for it. See how that goes. Wow.

Should mention, they kept excusing it as "what if its their internet going out", as if no one ever considers that. Uh, no, when the rest of us are in cutscenes while the d/cers are fighting bosses... and this occurs multiple times... no, it's not "their internet going out. For some reason these people could not understand something so simple, and that SE does not look on it kindly.

This whole, stupid argument started because I mentioned it was kinda silly to leave the sprout (a legit new player as they stated, not a reroll) behind when they forgot to grab the key for the magitek armour. I directed them to the key, but everyone went on, pointed out the roulette is fior new players, not US, and... well, went from there. Honestly, I'm disinclined to run it again, considering how many people insist they're entitled to the exp, and that it's a "requirement" to level a class. It's... really not. It's not for you or me, it's for the new players. Don't be a jerk.

i reported someone the other night for this all teh fights where below 50% by the time we all got out