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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I still maintain that ilvl scaling to 110 was a mistake. It should be 50-60. Then we can talk about skipping cutscenes.
    That wouldn't stop people kicking those who don't want to skip. In fact, it would make them want to kick more because they would want a party that go at their pace to help them.

    With the way it is now, those who want to go ahead can start on the fight and those who wait patiently can join in if the fight has not concluded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    That wouldn't stop people kicking those who don't want to skip. In fact, it would make them want to kick more because they would want a party that go at their pace to help them.

    With the way it is now, those who want to go ahead can start on the fight and those who wait patiently can join in if the fight has not concluded.
    Kicking for difference in playstyle is allowed and not even an issue here.

    Right now they can kick new players out of retaliation for the fix. In fact if they started doing this, it would likely grant the change the OP is requesting. Becareful of the topics you bring up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Kicking for difference in playstyle is allowed and not even an issue here.

    Right now they can kick new players out of retaliation for the fix. In fact if they started doing this, it would likely grant the change the OP is requesting. Becareful of the topics you bring up.
    But how many people would actually kick out of spite for SE over the many people who would kick due to party reason? I think the latter would be more. (if not kick, then harass)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Kicking for difference in playstyle is allowed and not even an issue here.

    Right now they can kick new players out of retaliation for the fix. In fact if they started doing this, it would likely grant the change the OP is requesting. Becareful of the topics you bring up.
    Have yet to see a GM quantify this stance since TOS changes last Feb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    That wouldn't stop people kicking those who don't want to skip. In fact, it would make them want to kick more because they would want a party that go at their pace to help them.

    With the way it is now, those who want to go ahead can start on the fight and those who wait patiently can join in if the fight has not concluded.
    With the way it is now, nobody should be going ahead, and can rightfully be reported for doing so.
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    I still maintain that ilvl scaling to 110 was a mistake. It should be 50-60. Then we can talk about skipping cutscenes.
    What do you mean? There is no ilvl sync on CM/Prae.

    Unless they've mentioned this as an impending change come 5.0 or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    What do you mean? There is no ilvl sync on CM/Prae.

    Unless they've mentioned this as an impending change come 5.0 or something.
    It syncs you to level 50, which also syncs your stats to the maximum you could have at that level. Which would make the item level roughly 130~135, as that was the highest gear one could get at the end of ARR.
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    It is, youre at 100+ not on like 50 as you would be, thats why its so faceroll. with half the players watching CS ppl would reconsider to ignore new players and rush and pull.

    That roulet is solely there for new ppl doing the story, if its too long for you, dont to it. It never was supposed to be burned in 20 min... Its do or do not, there is no try, i mean, skip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    That roulet is solely there for new ppl doing the story
    This is true and unfortunately what people didn't realize.

    Castrum and Prae are big epic storyline dungeons for new players. The whole reason the roulette exists is to help the new players get a group and the reason they offer so many tomes is to reward players for helping out the new guys.

    Unfortunately what happened was players saw it as a daily exp boost they were entitled to and kicked, ignored or left behind the newbies the entire thing was designed for, before snatching the "thanks for helping the new guy" reward and walking off. It's sad that Enix saw no choice but to literally force players to let the newbies enjoy their dungeon, but you can absolutely blame the players who said "we can kick who we like, it doesn't break ToS, difference in playstyle, watch it in the inn". Just because something isn't bannable, it doesn't mean it's fine. It created an issue that eventually required the devs to take measures and they did. There's a lesson to be learned here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    This is true and unfortunately what people didn't realize.

    Castrum and Prae are big epic storyline dungeons for new players. The whole reason the roulette exists is to help the new players get a group and the reason they offer so many tomes is to reward players for helping out the new guys.

    Unfortunately what happened was players saw it as a daily exp boost they were entitled to and kicked, ignored or left behind the newbies the entire thing was designed for, before snatching the "thanks for helping the new guy" reward and walking off. It's sad that Enix saw no choice but to literally force players to let the newbies enjoy their dungeon, but you can absolutely blame the players who said "we can kick who we like, it doesn't break ToS, difference in playstyle, watch it in the inn". Just because something isn't bannable, it doesn't mean it's fine. It created an issue that eventually required the devs to take measures and they did. There's a lesson to be learned here.
    The true nature of a person shows when there are no tangible repercussions for their actions.
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