Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Laerune]

At first I disliked it, but the way I see it the MSQ is great for when you need to level a class, getting tomes from there is pointless, you can get them faster from PvP or other dungeons. Personaly, I wont be doing the MSQ, but when the new classes are released, I will do them, because while the cutscenes are long, the reward are great for a non max level class.

[Shougun]

I'm in favor of high reward + sitting through it. As far as I see it those who queue should be helping the new players have the best story expericene or not queuing for it, and with the trust system incoming I believe that even more.

Although if there are no new people or the new person chooses to skip it then... i dont think it needs be watched lol. Issue being people would ask the new person to skip it then or leave queue until they get no new people...

So yeah I think it should stay and the trust system slowly removing this high reward opportunity from us being the final nail in the coffin to players who want to speed run other people's story expericene. Noting if they ever removed the forced cutscene the rewards should be severely nerfed, and since solo would work the roulette would probably die. Trust system is currently to our info only for shadowbringers but I imagine it being added to some other content.

Tl;dr MSQ is for MSQ, and so should it remain as it is or be taken into solo only space and we all lose a way to level and meet new players to the game.

[RokkuEkkusu]

While the unskippable cutscenes isn't exactly for everyone, the current Main Scenario Roulette an option to take if you want some extra tomes, experience, and nostalgic memories on the side with "less stress" (as a certain poster would put it.)

*Thinks about all of the other bad farm parties, Expert Roulette runs that take over 30 minutes, and other facepalm worthy DF runs I've run into lately. Can't always choose your teammates you know.

[kidalutz]

If it's not liked don't do it? I don't see how people are still complaining after it's been implemented ages ago.

[cicatriz313]

I remember when they implemented this change and everyone said "don't worry, the MSQ roulette will die and then they'll HAVE to change it back!" and then it didn't die, and newbies can still watch cutscenes. Maybe not all of them want to, but that's what youtube is for.

[Enla]

I remember when they implemented this change and everyone said "don't worry, the MSQ roulette will die and then they'll HAVE to change it back!" and then it didn't die, and newbies can still watch cutscenes. Maybe not all of them want to, but that's what youtube is for.

It did somewhat die actually, they had to increase the rewards to near double at one point after the change was made because for many people it wasn't worth the hassle. Now that the rewards match the time invested for those more interested in the roulette as a leveling tool things have gone back to normal. Those who don't want to sink an hour or more into a roulette still avoid it, while those who want to help newbies or those who don't really care and just pull up Reddit for every cutscene are still trucking along.

Personally I think the roulette is in a good place. I still think it was a clunky intervention but overall the majority of people seem to have found common ground now that the necessary tweaks have been made.

[LalaRu]

...Now that the rewards match the time invested for those more interested in the roulette as a leveling tool things have gone back to normal...

It seems not completely!

We have people that wants the upgraded rewards AND a speedrun together! And them keeping this thread alive, it seems.

[Gemina]

It did somewhat die actually, they had to increase the rewards to near double at one point after the change was made because for many people it wasn't worth the hassle. Now that the rewards match the time invested for those more interested in the roulette as a leveling tool things have gone back to normal. Those who don't want to sink an hour or more into a roulette still avoid it, while those who want to help newbies or those who don't really care and just pull up Reddit for every cutscene are still trucking along.

Personally I think the roulette is in a good place. I still think it was a clunky intervention but overall the majority of people seem to have found common ground now that the necessary tweaks have been made.

I've been running this roulette since the initial change, and there was never an issue getting in there. The reward increase made sense because the initial amount that was added was quite honestly negligible. Players who don't want to run this roulette typically state that you can get the same if not more tomes and exp running other content in less time, and they are absolutely correct about that. The conclusion I arrive at is that even with no increase to rewards AND the forced cut scenes, players are still going to run this roulette regardless.

I believe a big reason for this is because it has now become a place to relax and chat with other players for 30-45 minutes - not over an hour. These instances really only take 2 players (a tank and healer) knowing what they are doing and they get completed in 30 and 45 minutes respectively in clockwork fashion for Castrum and Prae. My worst run was about 51 minutes and that involved multiple wipes, and I just happened to be a DPS during that particular run.

I agree that it is in a great place right now. Those who want to run it do, and those who'd rather avoid it don't. It's a great and more relaxing alternative to getting a huge chunk of EXP and tomes.

[RaeynaGG]

Not too bad. We cringe when we do it. I miss the old way, but I do respect why the change occurred. It's just sad that now a lot of people go AFK, don't do mechanics, or end up baking brownies during the whole thing.

[Derio]

I just ran this the other day. After the initial changes you would just click through. But now they have the timer to where you have to wait and you can just sit back and watch the cutscenes. Now I can go to the bathroom and not have to worry about clicking through the cutscenes.