Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Akor]

Anyway why not just lock the dungeon to ilvl 50 with that sprouts can enjoy the content. Bc they first experince was ruined.

[Darth_Bathrobe]

They should remove all cutscenes from these dungeons and just have like a 2 hour long text speech from the scions detailing everything that happened inside... problem solved

You mean like the second disc of Xenogears? Remember how well that turned out...

And, FYI, sarcasm doesn't work well in print...

[Joe777]

I honestly stopped doing MSQ Roulette ages ago when I stopped needing Poetics. Unless you absolutely want to help people get through those instances there was never a good reason to run that Roulette over doing anything else, like PotD for example, after getting all your Roulette Daily Bonuses for the day. That said, this ultimately should not impact anything in a negative way. If anything, it'll make people who used the Roulette solely for the sake of farming EXP and Poetics realize there are better ways by making them stop queueing for it, and those that actually want to watch cutscenes are no longer forced to skip them as people that have already done those instances and continue to queue for them accept the cutscene viewing.

In the end, everyone will get something out of this.

[TheAngelneer]

In the end, everyone will get something out of this.

Yes, new players will be getting a lot out of this, a lot of time sitting on a queue.

[Joe777]

Yes, new players will be getting a lot out of this, a lot of time sitting on a queue.

You think that's any different than it is now? Because it's not. And if you think literally no one will queue to help new players out then you are wrong. There will always be people out there willing to help people get through a dungeon if they ask for help, happens all the time in Novice Network. Besides, everyone knows the hype and complaints are overdone before a new patch so watch and see, it won't be nearly as bad as you think it will be.

A few weeks ago I did these on an alt with my GF. We had a tank. The queue was 12 minutes. WITH A TANK!

Imagine how much longer it'll take once people, like you said, "notice it's not worth the time."

Not that much longer than it already does, actually.

I really dont understand the whole "Make cutscenes unskippable so newbies can enjoy them". With that mindset why make ANY cutscenes skippable then? Lets make the cutscene before normal Ifrit unskippable then (the whole damn like 15 minute long video....) so newbies can enjoy it. I know it sounds harsh but yeah.....there's the book at the inn! The ONLY thing that the player misses out on using the book is that they are the only one in the video instead of it showing like 7 other people around them. That's it. An extra 80 tomes does not "accomodate" for an extra 30-40 minutes probably that a run will take now....not to mention Im sure a lot of people will simply refuse to do them....so then you have the additional issue of increased queue times for it for the ones who HAVE to do it. Seriously, between this and some of the things with the glamour wardrobe I get the feeling that SE really isn't thinking some of the changes through for 4.2

Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium are basically the only instances in the game where you pretty much walk through a theater. In the case of cutscenes elsewhere it's mainly boss entrances and cutscenes before an instance commences, in which you're locked in a circle of light anyway.

[Skitz470]

Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium are basically the only instances in the game where you pretty much walk through a theater. In the case of cutscenes elsewhere it's mainly boss entrances and cutscenes before an instance commences, in which you're locked in a circle of light anyway.

True, but my point was that newbies can and do skip those cutscenes so that they dont keep the rest of the group sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Yeah the dungeon intro's arent that bad, but again, some dungeons (ifrit, the final boss of thousand maws) if someone is there for the MSQ there are some pretty lengthy cutscenes. Also, what if the newbie(s) themselves want to skip the cutscenes? Say they wanted to do it before they have to leave for work or something then watch the cutscenes when they get home and can enjoy them. Nope, going to have to hold off on doing that because you dont have an entire hour available to (as the quote puts it) go on a theater ride.

[Joe777]

True, but my point was that newbies can and do skip those cutscenes so that they dont keep the rest of the group sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Yeah the dungeon intro's arent that bad, but again, some dungeons (ifrit, the final boss of thousand maws) if someone is there for the MSQ there are some pretty lengthy cutscenes. Also, what if the newbie(s) themselves want to skip the cutscenes? Say they wanted to do it before they have to leave for work or something then watch the cutscenes when they get home and can enjoy them. Nope, going to have to hold off on doing that because you dont have an entire hour available to (as the quote puts it) go on a theater ride.

It's pretty much always been all or nothing when it comes to these 2 instances though. SE is just removing the "nothing". Sure they'll forever be a great source of torment for many and a blight upon FF14's group instances in regards to clearing places quickly but until the day SE decides it shall no longer be a thing you do with other players or decides to remove the cutscenes or just plain integrate the cutscenes into part of the duty whuddyagunnado?

[VanilleFang]

Not that much longer than it already does, actually.

You're delusional if you actually think this.

Why do you think it won't take longer? In what universe are the same amount of people going to queue for an hour long dungeon run compared to a ~15 minute one?

[Vstarstruck]

You're delusional if you actually think this.

Not only that, why do you think it won't take longer? In what universe are the same amount of people going to queue for an hour long dungeon run compared to a ~15 minute one?

its possible that person you are quoting has a bad concept of time, not really rare with people having fun tbh.

It is very unlikely people will queue for it unless the rewards are really insane, we will see.

Personally I would have made it a solo instance that had various NPC's helping out, the dungeons themselves as they are now are bad and with current gear are a complete joke.

The idea of forcing you to watch cutscenes is a hilariously boneheaded idea. What if no one is new? What if new players don't want to watch the cutscenes? What if someone reading slowly doesn't finish the cutscene fast enough and gets locked out anyway? Were none of these a concern?

What were they thinking?

sounds like this is good material for avgn anyway. him reviewing ffxiv would be funny im sure.

[Jijifli]

If anything, it'll make people who used the Roulette solely for the sake of farming EXP and Poetics realize there are better ways by making them stop queueing for it

In the end, everyone will get something out of this.

A few weeks ago I did these on an alt with my GF. We had a tank. The queue was 12 minutes. WITH A TANK!

Imagine how much longer it'll take once people, like you said, "notice it's not worth the time."