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    This isn't an eff up on SEs part. This is SEs deliberate eff u to speed runners of an instance that for years now, does not get run as intended. These instances, especially Prae, are a nightmare for new players who aren't even allowed to see which direction faces up.

    I commend SE for sticking to their guns with this. It doesn't mean I'lol be queueing up for it unless I want the full experience I was denied two years ago.
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    Player illgot's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This isn't an eff up on SEs part. This is SEs deliberate eff u to speed runners of an instance that for years now, does not get run as intended. These instances, especially Prae, are a nightmare for new players who aren't even allowed to see which direction faces up.

    I commend SE for sticking to their guns with this. It doesn't mean I'lol be queueing up for it unless I want the full experience I was denied two years ago.
    Can't you watch the cut scenes in the inn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    Can't you watch the cut scenes in the inn?
    Yes. With about the same enjoyment as a watered down soda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Yes. With about the same enjoyment as a watered down soda.
    It's going to be a lot more enjoyable with everyone grumbling at each other the whole run yeah? /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This isn't an eff up on SEs part. This is SEs deliberate eff u to speed runners of an instance that for years now, does not get run as intended. These instances, especially Prae, are a nightmare for new players who aren't even allowed to see which direction faces up.

    I commend SE for sticking to their guns with this. It doesn't mean I'lol be queueing up for it unless I want the full experience I was denied two years ago.
    The speed runners were the only ones willing to actually queue. You commend SE yet aren't willing to help the newbies who will now be waiting potentially hours for queues? Bit hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    The speed runners were the only ones willing to actually queue. You commend SE yet aren't willing to help the newbies who will now be waiting potentially hours for queues? Bit hypocritical.
    When did I say I wouldn't help newbies? Here, let me back track a bit. I will no longer be queuing up for this for selfish reasons. Is that better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    When did I say I wouldn't help newbies? Here, let me back track a bit. I will no longer be queuing up for this for selfish reasons. Is that better?
    Why should we queue it? Why would someone be selfish to say that they wont run a content anymore that could take hours to complete? People dont have unlimited amount of time and the main reason to run the roulette was probably the exp/tomes. Why should they still run it when this might be worse? We are not a charity. I am playing a game to have fun and if its fun to help newer players through content well then you can still do that. But a lot of time people run these things because they get something out of that. Its not our job to help people through (which I still did more than enough in my old FC) and its not our fault that they designed two main story dungeons with such a huge amount of cutscenes.

    It is all on SE side. They decided to create them and they decided to use that solution instead of making it into something newer players can truly enjoy. They dont punish us with that. They just punish the newer ones. But its not our job to help them through this. Its SEs job to find a good solution and not something like that.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 01-27-2018 at 09:21 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Why should we queue it? Why would someone be selfish to say that they wont run a content anymore that could take hours to complete?
    This is a problem beyond msq though. 50/60 queue currently offers zero incentive for many people to do it, because we have no relic making verity and poetic tomes near worthless. Stuff like Guildhests are worthless too for 70s. A lot of the reason people did older content was really the relic, since you needed an absurd level of tomes to complete it. They are going to need to look at older content overall and evaluate it, because this just increases as time passes. I see ppl in PF looking for stuff like antitower or other basic things cause they wait so long in individual queue.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This isn't an eff up on SEs part. This is SEs deliberate eff u to speed runners of an instance that for years now, does not get run as intended. These instances, especially Prae, are a nightmare for new players who aren't even allowed to see which direction faces up.

    I commend SE for sticking to their guns with this. It doesn't mean I'lol be queueing up for it unless I want the full experience I was denied two years ago.
    But now it will be far harder for newbies to clear the MSQ. If you had to choose, which would you choose? Either having to wait possibly an hour to queue into a dungeon you HAVE to complete (assuming you are not in a FC or not one willing to help) or get in within 20ish minutes but have to possibly miss the story or fights?
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