They should remove all cutscenes from these dungeons and just have like a 2 hour long text speech from the scions detailing everything that happened inside... problem solved
They should remove all cutscenes from these dungeons and just have like a 2 hour long text speech from the scions detailing everything that happened inside... problem solved

You mean to tell me that the bean counters decided that the more likely to be profitable decision was the one that was likely to drive more players away, meaning they don't continue to pay their $13/mo? It's possible that some people pay for the jump potion, but I would predict that far more people would say "screw it unsubbing" then the ones that buy one, and that would lead to lost profits over a few months just for more in the now, I should think, but that's all I'll say on the matter anymore. I'm not going derail the thread with this.
Rabble rabble SE this is a terrible idea rabble rabble!
Bean counters make stupid decisions. If you want to see what happens when the bean counter screws up, go look at EA. If you want to see what happens when the bean counter doesn't screw up, go look at Valve.You mean to tell me that the bean counters decided that the more likely to be profitable decision was the one that was likely to drive more players away, meaning they don't continue to pay their $13/mo? It's possible that some people pay for the jump potion, but I would predict that far more people would say "screw it unsubbing" then the ones that buy one, and that would lead to lost profits over a few months just for more in the now, I should think, but that's all I'll say on the matter anymore. I'm not going derail the thread with this.
Rabble rabble SE this is a terrible idea rabble rabble!
Last edited by ToasterMan; 01-27-2018 at 05:23 AM.


I think they will just end up changing it back to the way it was or thinking of some other solution, like making these solo duites. An increased reward of only 80 more poetics is really not going to cut it I think. Once they see that new players are having trouble getting passed this part of the msq because so few people are queueing for this roulette, they will be forced to fix it. I doubt they want to lose new players due to inability to progress in the msq due to queues that never pop or are potentially hours long.
Hardcore raiders sell savage runs. Now anyone can sell a run. All it takes is patience and the right amount of gil.

While it would definitely be better if SE actually took the time to redesign these two dungeons, I wonder how many people would be willing to see 4.3 delayed by three months in order for this to happen.
To be blunt, if their dev team is stretched that tightly that they'd need to delay it to fix them, it's not a good vote of confidence for the game's health overall. And anyways, this problem has been occuring for years; they had plenty of time to budget a solution.



I'd keep doing it even with the cutscenes IF the rewards were better. And no a couple extra Poetics isn't cutting it. I'm talking MAJOR xp while leveling up alt classes. Double or triple the XP gain and I'd consider it. Otherwise, i'm with never doing the MSQ roulette again.
Did you ever try getting into the old 24 man raids before they added a roulette for them? Last I tried helping someone, we gave up after 2 hours.
Msq will see a similar fate if they go through with this.
And this is actually gating content, unlike Crystal Tower, you can't just tell the new guys to f... it and do something else.



I'm soo glad I joined XIV way before all of this madness happened; back then, everyone had to watch the cutscenes and fight the bosses with whatever strength they had. It was a struggle, but we conquered both Meridianum and Praetorium.
Now, the current new players may get to enjoy cutscenes, BUT they won't be able to enjoy the thrill of fighting against the bosses because they're already dead within a minute or two thanks to the almighty veterans who were crazy enough to play though the dungeons again. (it kinda kills the excitement from the cutscene that lead to the battle, ya know..)
I get that this solution is a bad idea, but yo, you don't have to deal with the madness by NOT playing the MSQ roulette. What's the point of going back besides helping your fellow friends/FC mates who're new to the realm? Lvling an alt character/job? Okay. More power to ya, but be prepared for a loong run!
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