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    Too many people to quote a reply at, however—

    Suggesting that "no one will queue for MSQ" is simply inaccurate (as in, you have no way of proving this statement). At any point after this change, the non-new players queuing will be greater than 0 (it is far more likely than not that this statement holds).

    In accordance with the above, putting myself in the shoes of a new player, I would rather wait a longer time for these dungeons, if a shorter time means getting yelled at to skip skip skip. S-E, apparently, agrees.

    Refitting the Leveling Roulette to accommodate for 8 player dungeons is very, very simple. It is not this enormous undertaking that has been suggested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    In accordance with the above, putting myself in the shoes of a new player, I would rather wait a longer time for these dungeons, if a shorter time means getting yelled at to skip skip skip. S-E, apparently, agrees.
    How long would you be willing to wait? 30 minutes? An hour? 2 hours? A new player running into that is going to quit the game, I sure would have. If story content that blocks progress is next to dead what hope is there for content beyond in the eyes of a new player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephera View Post
    How long would you be willing to wait? 30 minutes? An hour? 2 hours? A new player running into that is going to quit the game, I sure would have. If story content that blocks progress is next to dead what hope is there for content beyond in the eyes of a new player?
    Personally, over an hour wouldn't bug me. Not even two. I'd just read a book while I wait.

    Personal opinion aside, if it blocks progress that much, I suspect the new dungeons will go into the Leveling Roulette to solve that problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Personally, over an hour wouldn't bug me. Not even two. I'd just read a book while I wait.
    That's you though. I don't think most people would be willing to wait that long.

    EDIT: To further support my point, look at how much people complain about dps queues. This will be a similar problem, only much, much worse.
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    Last edited by Zephera; 01-27-2018 at 02:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Refitting the Leveling Roulette to accommodate for 8 player dungeons is very, very simple. It is not this enormous undertaking that has been suggested.
    If they will merge it into any other roulette - it'll be the 50/60 roulette which from my experience a lot less people queue for to begin with.

    EDIT: lmao totally forgot about the hest roulette, nm all the rest of what was here
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 01-27-2018 at 02:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post

    In accordance with the above, putting myself in the shoes of a new player, I would rather wait a longer time for these dungeons, if a shorter time means getting yelled at to skip skip skip. S-E, apparently, agrees.

    R
    Hello fellow famfrit resident.

    I disagree. I have done the MSQ roulette every day since i started playing again in november. No one tells people to skip. they just leave them behind. Its 2 different things. The people being left behind either skip as well or people wait, up to the player. The fact is the MSQ roulette is too small of a selection in dungeons that ONLY getting Prae or CM means EVERYTIME i queue for it now I HAVE to watch the cutscenes, instead of instructing players (who are willing) to watch it in the Inn
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    Just going to add I have 3 more roles to level to 70 at the moment on my main and when I start another (just finished dragoon) Main Story won't be on my list of dailies for experience. I suspect I'm not alone in thinking or doing that. Good luck to all the green leafs and I see a ton of them in those duties. Hopefully there are enough of them to get the duty to run.
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    There's no reason not to skip the dungeon cs and watch them in the inn instead. It doesn't make the dungeons any more exciting if you watched all the cs since all the fights are over quickly nowdays.
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    Suggesting that "no one will queue for MSQ" is simply inaccurate (as in, you have no way of proving this statement). At any point after this change, the non-new players queuing will be greater than 0 (it is far more likely than not that this statement holds).
    It will almost unquestionably be less. This isn't hard to discern, just from looking over the backlash that has already been made before the patch is even live.

    In accordance with the above, putting myself in the shoes of a new player, I would rather wait a longer time for these dungeons, if a shorter time means getting yelled at to skip skip skip. S-E, apparently, agrees.
    They're still going to be yelled at to spam through the CS like everyone else and will get vote kicked when they don't.

    Refitting the Leveling Roulette to accommodate for 8 player dungeons is very, very simple. It is not this enormous undertaking that has been suggested.
    This is the only one you're right about, because guildhest roulette has a 8 man hest too.
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    They're still going to be yelled at to spam through the CS like everyone else and will get vote kicked when they don't.
    This is the player toxcicity someone was talking about. The players of the game are the ones who took it upon themselves to tell new sprouts to skip the CSs and watch in an Inn or be kicked.

    Sorry, but that would stop me more from playing a game than having SE make me wait a bit longer for queue times.

    And yes, I am one of those people who will continue to do MSQ roulettes, cause this doesn't bother me at all.
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