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    Player
    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayasaki128 View Post
    I know it is a MMO, but people who skip all the story just to play raid/pvp... I just think they are throwing entirely game in the trash can just for one or two content.
    People can play they way the want, but there are some newbie/vets in the dungeon want to play reading the story. (Yes, I like rewatch cs)
    You are right, this is not a single-player game and there are people who will queue for these people too and also keep queing for msq as well.
    You know, I love PvP, raiding, and I actually really enjoy the story. . .

    What I don't love, however, is SE forcing my decisions or what I watch and when. Especially 4 years and 2 expansions later. I understand where you're trying to come from, but it feels like you've really overlooked a few things here.
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    Kazela Arniman
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Just wait for the inevitable daily/weekly quest they add as part of the upcoming relic armor/weapon series that requires us to run MSQ roulette (think singing clusters quests for anima weapons). That will be the “fix”.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 80
    My problem is not the cutscenes.... but the fact people who insist on speed running will never queue up...therefore...I wont wait 45 mins to over an hour for MSQ...not worth it.

    Private party un-synched? Count on me to show up for help - within reason. Hell could be fun.

    But not for regular roulette. Better off doing Aetherchmeical Dungeon for the tomestones.
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    This one is a tough one, the remove and make a solo dungeon seems the best course. Will try to queue for them to help new players for a bit but it is going to alienate the daily msq roulette fast prolly. Guess the only good part is that if you are new "when" you finally do get in you aren't going to be harassed. (one long wait is prolly less "damaging" than your first bad experience i suppose)
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbercules View Post
    (one long wait is prolly less "damaging" than your first bad experience i suppose)
    They'll just get harassed to spam through the cutscenes instead most likely. So it'll still be a bad experience most likely. Heck, if you take the time to watch the cutscenes they'll probably vote kick you out to boot.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    They'll just get harassed to spam through the cutscenes instead most likely. So it'll still be a bad experience most likely. Heck, if you take the time to watch the cutscenes they'll probably vote kick you out to boot.
    good point, i really shouldn't underestimate ppl.
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    Rhia Nara
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gyactus View Post
    I hare read more than a player disappointed from this kind of rushing, not only in Praetorium but in levelling dungeons too.

    The story is an important part of the ff14 experience, if you don't have time for a few cutscenes, don't queue a roulette.
    Exactly what people are gonna do. Those dungeons are going to be dead, effectively creating a wall for new players.
    I don't mind a few cutscenes, but these 2 dungeons contain 30-40 minutes of them.
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    Eldred Draconis
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    The community takes the blame for this change. If players weren't so toxic to new players with "SKIP SKIP SKIP" S-E would not have had to make such a strong change like this.

    Personally, I am very glad this change was finally made. New players deserve to experience the story the way the developers intended.
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    Zephera Mortera
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    The community takes the blame for this change. If players weren't so toxic to new players with "SKIP SKIP SKIP" S-E would not have had to make such a strong change like this.

    Personally, I am very glad this change was finally made. New players deserve to experience the story the way the developers intended.
    New players are going to quit playing because they won't be able to get a queue in a reasonable time you mean.

    Also, it's very rare I see any toxicity and I run MSQ roulette once a day. Aside from "hellos" most people are dead silent, newbies and veterans alike. Most veterans, while they do rush, tell the newbie to "relax and enjoy the cutscenes". It's not like the fights are impressive, they're over before they even begin.
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    Eldred Draconis
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephera View Post
    New players are going to quit playing because they won't be able to get a queue in a reasonable time you mean.

    Also, it's very rare I see any toxicity and I run MSQ roulette once a day. Aside from "hellos" most people are dead silent, newbies and veterans alike. Most veterans, while they do rush, tell the newbie to "relax and enjoy the cutscenes". It's not like the fights are impressive, they're over before they even begin.
    Your anecdotal evidence aside, it's well documented that new players are told to skip cut scenes and "watch them in the inn" during these two dungeons. The devs have acknowledged this. It's why the change was made.

    If queue times aren't reasonable, then I wouldn't be surprised to see MSQ and Leveling Roulettes merged.

    Once again, only the community has themselves to blame for this.
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