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    Player
    Mihana's Avatar
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    Sa'hana Zhralyia
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 80
    How is this debate still going? What don't people understand about the roulette for this? It's not mandatory, is in its own separate roulette, and has much larger bonuses to compensate players for their extra time. It doesn't matter if that's not what players are using it for, that's how it was created and how it was meant to be used. If you don't want to sit through the cutscenes and just speed through it as fast as possible then remove the rewards or reduce them to match the other roulettes. Hell, add them back into the normal leveling roulette and be done with it. I imagine if they took away the roulette system for it and made the two MSQ dungeons solo instances there would be an outcry to bring it back because of the loss of potential EXP and tomestones. And then when they did, complaints it needs to be made skippable. A never ending cycle.
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    KokonoeAiyoko's Avatar
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    Pomf-pomf Footahnaree
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    All the new players I run into seem to hate the cutscenes too and think Gaius' talking is too long winded and slow.

    They really need to redesign this. I don't really care if it takes effort, it's worth it to get new players into the game. Lots of 2.0 is a slog, this doesn't help.

    There's no challenge with the over geared nature of this anyway so there's no sense of accomplishment for new players.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    All the new players I run into seem to hate the cutscenes too and think Gaius' talking is too long winded and slow.

    They really need to redesign this. I don't really care if it takes effort, it's worth it to get new players into the game. Lots of 2.0 is a slog, this doesn't help.

    There's no challenge with the over geared nature of this anyway so there's no sense of accomplishment for new players.
    Story Completion?
    Cause remember its a Story Dungeon, like a Legit story Dungeon.
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    Machka Gikkingen
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Story Completion?
    Cause remember its a Story Dungeon, like a Legit story Dungeon.
    The accomplishment of story completion doesn't require a full party of 8, so the point that it could use a redesign stands.
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    Hazama999's Avatar
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    Momoida Jojoida
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    I try to see the positive in things. I've always valued the newbie's experience over that of the 7 others who've run these instances thousands of times, so that's there in some aspect... plus I get to catch up on other stuff I am so obviously doing on the side.
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    Lunalepsy's Avatar
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Louvain View Post
    We all know that newbies who want to watch story cutscenes in the castrums have been struggling a long time, usually being answered with "just rewatch it at the inn/ on youtube." I myself have experienced this, and a majority of current players also probably have. But...

    Making the cut scenes unskippable, and then locking what will be more than likely a sizable reward behind it is not the answer. Additionally, even though they may no longer be skippable, the bosses will still be burned down in a matter of moments because of the high ilevel sync, leaving the new player with a feeling of lack of accomplishment and defeating the point of this change.

    My suggestion is to just remove it from duty roulette entirely and change it into a personal instance, allowing the player better interaction with the duty. Or, you know, just revert it back.

    I'm sure people also have plenty of other solutions and ideas which should be posted, but I think we can all agree that changing the cut scenes to be unskippable is not the answer. All this will do is drastically increase the queue times for those dungeons and make it harder for new players to get in and progress to other parts of the game(and the queue times for those dungeons can already be quite long).

    Edit: I want to point out this suggestion I've been seen being made in a few places; It might be possible to implement a "skip cutscene" vote, based on a majority victory, which will allow players to skip cutscenes.; Those who want to watch still can, but for those that don't can charge ahead.

    Second Edit
    Totally agree. I don't do roulettes anymore because those cutscenes are insufferable!
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  7. #7
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    No one's denying that it could use a rework. It's just not a priority for the dev team, so they piled on a massive chunk of poetics and EXP as a band-aid.
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    Vavali Vali
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I get that when new players are in, it was annoying to have the cutscenes skipped and just left there thinking "what happened" as this big ass movie played out and the dungeon was just done. It have happened to me, and it sucked.
    having unskippable cutscenes and big rewards is a good move, and makes sense. People are still incentivized to do it and new players get the experience of two really awful 8-man dungeons as a product of their time lol.

    My only real issue comes from when there's 8 people that que'd for the roulette, only to be put into the same instance when none of them are new. In that case, wouldn't it make sense to just let them skip? They've all seen it, and there's no new players to defend.
    The issue then would be probably people leaving, or bullying new players for making them watch the movie they signed up for. In which case the best way to handle that is to make the rewards you get for helping first timers for those two specific instances be increased in rewards from the typical instance. This seems like a good idea and only serves to make MSQ roulette more enjoyable.

    Or they could, you know, just rework those dungeons already. That also works.
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  9. #9
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    There seems to be some issue where either it's skippable or it isn't, period. If you watch it from the Unending Journey in an inn room, you can't skip it there, either.
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    jadeblade's Avatar
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    Arthur Wolfe
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Stop Necroing threads.
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