Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
Honestly, this was more than deserved, considering how overtuned Summoner was for the last patch. They could out damage Samurai and Black Mage, despite having the utility to make up for their damage.

Now this should put them in the same place as SAM, rather than above it.
Is there anything you wouldn't defend SE for? You clearly aren't able to read people's posts that explain why SMN was not overtuned.

Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
It certainly does, but that's because you're thinking only of bursts. Summoner's strength lies in sustained damage, and the fact that they can constantly have at least 300 potency of damage per 3seconds, without any need to worry about serious clipping or losing potency or similar. However, on top of their sustained damage, they also have powerful oGCDs (Fester, Deathflare and Akh Morn) that can inflict serious damage.

And Samurai is compared to SMN simply because of SMN's overwhelming damage... just as it would be compared to Black Mage for that matter. But if you wanna compare SMN to BLM, SMN objectively outperforms BLM in terms of DPS, even if numbers "feel" low.
What on earth? SMN is a burst class. Seriously, do you even play this game? How can anyone take you seriously when you flat out don't have a clue about how SMN works or even how raid buffs work.

Quote Originally Posted by GenjuroK View Post
Wow i don't even know where to start here. Summoner is right now the strongest DPS in the game, not just personal DPS but actual contributed Raid DPS, people complain because they have very little idea how to properly play the job. Maybe you should check out a guide before complaining.
Maybe you should actually learn about why FFlogs overestimated SMN. BRD+DRG+NIN+MCH were all better.