Thread: Caster Changes in 4.2 (RIP Casters)

Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

You are wrong and the statistics from the Raid DPS app prove that the personal DPS for BLM does not make up for its lack of utility. Go check out Blackcat's raiddps app.

Never did and it looks like it never will, just give BLM offensive utilitty already, selfish is never gonna work.

Originally Posted by Lina_Slayer

Never did and it looks like it never will, just give BLM offensive utilitty already, selfish is never gonna work.

Of course it can work. It just needs SE to actually playtest the game, not fumble through stuff in godmode.

Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

Of course it can work. It just needs SE to actually playtest the game, not fumble through stuff in godmode.

If we ever do enough damage to be meta the community will come saying how it takes no coordination and how healthy the old meta was, just give us a random button that increases everyone's damage because it seems like it's the pinnacle of skill in this game.

I'd say that the lack of sinergy with other jobs is hurting more, SAM can at least say that is sinergized with the ever present physical dmg buffs, which honestly were something I worried for when I saw SB job skills, since they neutered magical burst while still bringing in new physical buffs

I did small comparison from raid dps calculator o6s because o5s you can cheese from adds too much. It does not looks like casters are that bad spot, but it is hard compare if gear is not equal level. This is rank 1 from every job o6s.

Originally Posted by Sunako

I did small comparison from raid dps calculator o6s because o5s you can cheese from adds too much. It does not looks like casters are that bad spot, but it is hard compare if gear is not equal level. This is rank 1 from every job o6s.

Its way too early to be saying that because:

a) You don't know what gear each of the classes have (nowhere near close to BiS and there's a chance one of those weapons is BiS).
b) Strategies haven't been optimized yet
c) People haven't been experimenting with comps yet.

Furthermore, taking the top job from each role is completely inaccurate - you absolutely need to take into account killtime. Speedruns are a better way of measuring performance. Furthermore, Blackcat's tool does also still bias the person that applies the damage (rather than the buff user) in situations where buffs are stacked.

My Lord, guys just look at FFLogs and tell me BLM doesn't have one of the highest personal DPS. That's the entire reason why they lack utility.

Originally Posted by RainDurell

My Lord, guys just look at FFLogs and tell me BLM doesn't have one of the highest personal DPS. That's the entire reason why they lack utility.

If BLM does 2000 more personal DPS than NIN, but NIN brings 3000 group DPS through utility, NIN is the stronger choice because it has better over all DPS.

Originally Posted by VanilleFang

If BLM does 2000 more personal DPS than NIN, but NIN brings 3000 group DPS through utility, NIN is the stronger choice because it has better over all DPS.

Trick Attack, in a midcore static on O6S contributes to like 450 DPS. Shadewalker's value is decreased so much with the introduction of Diversion then it's only semi useful on pull and that's it. Stop talking out of your butt. BLM and Nin damage close overall.

Originally Posted by RainDurell

My Lord, guys just look at FFLogs and tell me BLM doesn't have one of the highest personal DPS. That's the entire reason why they lack utility.

1) Week 2 logs are not an indicator on overall performance. Its too small a sample size with too varied an amount of gear
2) The High personal DPS does not make up for the lack of Utility - Check the Raid DPS app.