Thread: Caster Changes in 4.2 (RIP Casters)

good BLM players know how to deal with moving around for mechanics instead of complaining about their lack of mobility

Dunno. I've raided with BLMs before, its always "i'm not moving for whatever reason everyone adjust to my needs".
They did good numbers. Also they made me want to kill them xD

Originally Posted by MahoSenshi

Dunno. I've raided with BLMs before, its always "i'm not moving for whatever reason everyone adjust to my needs".
They did good numbers. Also they made me want to kill them xD

Its half and half. There's certain mechanics that are optimized to maintain uptime as much as possible, but there's also some that don't need much optimization and can simply be done with the existing tools of the class as well as preparation.

BLM sometimes need the group to position right so they don't have to move to optimize. This makes a lot of BLM act like this for everything which is wrong. Also the BLM should think on the group as well, the strategy shouldn't only favor them but should favor everyone as well on top of helping their positioning. People playing BLM and not thinking about the team and just not wanting to move even when they can move just piles up into the "we hate BLM" thing you commonly see in PFs. Myself included, I honestly dislike having BLM players I don't know in my pick up groups at PF. They are usually really bad.

If mana shift wasn't utter garbage compared to refresh

Originally Posted by zuzu-bq

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God, I couldn't agree more. I also feel the same way with Melee up time. I know it's optimal but still, I hate melee that get so arrogant about their damage when literally every strategy to deal with mechanics is always in favor of melee. Even as a SMN, who can still dps while moving, I do lose potency while using Ruin 2 over Ruin 3. It's not drastic but I do get annoyed how SMN/RDM is just expected to pick up the slack for mechanics for Melee/BLM.

Originally Posted by RainDurell

Listen to what YoshiP said this liveletter, stop acting like raid utility is all that matters, the personal performance of someone can also get you to victory.

This is a disingenuous because you're inherently assuming both the "meta" job players and the "non-meta" aren't of equal skill. A fair comparison means we must assume the jobs are being played by equally skilled players. In that scenario, Dragoon, for instance, far exceeds Samurai's value because Litany and Disembowel are that beneficial for physical ranged jobs, especially Bard. Although Black Mage is in a far better spot now than it has previously, it's debatable whether the DPS equates to enough where it offsets Summoner's comparably high damage and utility. We'll have to see as parses begin to even out.

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

This is a disingenuous because you're inherently assuming both the "meta" job players and the "non-meta" aren't of equal skill.

Yeha this is important. You can't win with a bad BLM, but you might win with a bad MCH because Hypercharge is really strong, all he has to do is press that button.

a bad MCH is extremely likely to get their turrets killed negating the effect of hypercharge (or simply moving it) a better comparison should be battle voice or simply disembowel as they are more fool proof