Thread: Caster Changes in 4.2 (RIP Casters)

Originally Posted by CreinCrein

Except collaboratively planning offensive and defensive CDs doesn't come automatically. Slap a meta comp onto a group only playing in blues and purples won't push them to orange because the meta exceeds their level of play. My biggest point in defending it is because it brings out the best in each individual player through selflessness, which is healthier than feeding one person.

All factors equal (player capability, gear, etc), slap a non-meta comp on those same players and they do objectively worse.

Originally Posted by CreinCrein

Except collaboratively planning offensive and defensive CDs doesn't come automatically. Slap a meta comp onto a group only playing in blues and purples won't push them to orange because the meta exceeds their level of play. My biggest point in defending it is because it brings out the best in each individual player through selflessness, which is healthier than feeding one person.

Clicking TA every 60 seconds takes 0 skill, it takes much less skill than playing BLM optimally and it does at the very least 1,6% of rDPS on a freaking bad party (it is reallistically way more), not to mention as an ex BLM main (got fed of all the bullshit and went WAR this tier) I'd take TA over my personal dps advantage any day of the week, swap my personal dps with NIN but they lose their TA and BLM gains it and I even let they keep their agroo control. Deal?

nice logs, try looking at the more recent ones for sigmascape; in the current, post-buff and applicable context.

Originally Posted by CreinCrein

If a machinist and blm are of equal standing, acting independently of the party, operating at a lower level of play, in the context of the meta comp, the machinist would do lower dps than the blm because their damage is reliant on optimising external factors which a low-play mchs won't know how to do. Anyways, where are the arguments against how the meta comp is more rewarding to each individual player, rather than just spewing out reasons why it's better.

Bad BLMs deal less personal dps than bad MCHs lol, what are you saying would make sense if BLM/Sam were enough ahead to the point where the meta classes need to play perfect to outdps them, it just isn't the case basically using TA as soon as it comes off cooldown and everyone playing in any way they want will give at the very least 1,6% rDPS the difference between SAM/BLM and NIN is just not big enough to cover a poorly optimized Trick Attack.

https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/21/#dataset=80

Originally Posted by CreinCrein

nice logs, try looking at the more recent ones for sigmascape; in the current, post-buff and applicable context.

Add ~4% to the previous Black Mage logs if you want. However, given it's literally just one week of data, the values are going to swing more wildly as there are less data points in Sigmascape.

In a few more weeks as more data is accumulated we will have a better idea of where everything settles.

Originally Posted by CreinCrein

https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/21/#dataset=80

You just managed to pick the worst more biased data I've ever seen there is not even raw numbers for anyone to discuss anything, there is the fact BLM has 4 freaking clears on the hardest fight making their dps much higher than it should be, there is so much wrong with your choice of data that if I were to point everything that is wrong it would take an hour.

You know there's tabs you can open to look up the individual fights right, where the data is p consistent for the first 3. Have you put in the effort to dig around a bit before getting aggressive? lol