Thread: Caster Changes in 4.2 (RIP Casters)

Honestly, this was more than deserved, considering how overtuned Summoner was for the last patch. They could out damage Samurai and Black Mage, despite having the utility to make up for their damage.

Now this should put them in the same place as SAM, rather than above it.

Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare

Honestly, this was more than deserved, considering how overtuned Summoner was for the last patch. They could out damage Samurai and Black Mage, despite having the utility to make up for their damage.

Now this should put them in the same place as SAM, rather than above it.

You miss the point. This is not about BLM damage getting higher than summoner, it's about the whole caster class being garbage compared to others. BLM needed a much higher buff (SAM in accordance) and smn shouldn't have been nerfed, that's it (maybe in aoe but not single target). It seems we're designed to do less damage, explain me if it makes sense to you considering some other classes with higher utility do higher rdps than we do.

Besides, when you compare classes, you compare the raid dps, not the personnal dps as the latter doesn't take in account the damage you provide to the team through buffs.

Sounds fishy to me. Every ex roulette dungeon ever done that's had a rdm, blm, or sam in party always done way more than I every have in dps. Most Have ever seen once for a crit was 20k damage but a friend of mine that has way lower ilvl for his sam says he crits for 30+k so how is a summoners dps higher than a sams. Also have another friend that mains a blm and way out dps's me. Sounds like summoner hate to me. Summoner gets good boost and now everyone gets mad so to fix it they nerf it and i'm pretty sure last patch they nerfed it to. Sams doesn't deserve a boost anymore than another class does. Why should they even be compare them to a caster. There melee and not one that uses magic. They should only be compared to a monk, dragoon, or a ninja since there a close range dps and not a range dps class.

Originally Posted by hynaku

Sounds fishy to me.

It certainly does, but that's because you're thinking only of bursts. Summoner's strength lies in sustained damage, and the fact that they can constantly have at least 300 potency of damage per 3seconds, without any need to worry about serious clipping or losing potency or similar. However, on top of their sustained damage, they also have powerful oGCDs (Fester, Deathflare and Akh Morn) that can inflict serious damage.

And Samurai is compared to SMN simply because of SMN's overwhelming damage... just as it would be compared to Black Mage for that matter. But if you wanna compare SMN to BLM, SMN objectively outperforms BLM in terms of DPS, even if numbers "feel" low.