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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    And you're a catgirl in a fantasy game, what's your point?
    Suspension of disbelief needs to be justifiable. I can believe Kirin can fly because he has magic light wings, I can believe adamantoise can fly because of his rocket engine farts, I can believe Fenrir can fly because you literally see the ice magic holding him up.

    I think the Devs are getting really lazy with this, the Christmas bear has no justification to be able to fly (it should have the same ice particle effects as Kirin) and neither do these horses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I think the Devs are getting really lazy with this [...]
    Egh. With flying being a thing, mounts that can't do it aren't a viable choice and less desired and since they are used as an incentive for activity X and Y, that means you need to make them able to fly to keep the incentives intact, no matter how silly it might be.

    I expect the silliness to escalate further unless they find a way to make ground only mounts viable for travel after flying is unlocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Egh. With flying being a thing, mounts that can't do it aren't a viable choice and less desired and since they are used as an incentive for activity X and Y, that means you need to make them able to fly to keep the incentives intact, no matter how silly it might be.

    I expect the silliness to escalate further unless they find a way to make ground only mounts viable for travel after flying is unlocked.
    I love my warhorse, it's a great mount. It really doesn't need to fly though, it's just going to look stupid without any kind of animation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Suspension of disbelief needs to be justifiable. I can believe Kirin can fly because he has magic light wings, I can believe adamantoise can fly because of his rocket engine farts, I can believe Fenrir can fly because you literally see the ice magic holding him up.

    I think the Devs are getting really lazy with this, the Christmas bear has no justification to be able to fly (it should have the same ice particle effects as Kirin) and neither do these horses
    But fat chocobo could also fly. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Suspension of disbelief needs to be justifiable. I can believe Kirin can fly because he has magic light wings, I can believe adamantoise can fly because of his rocket engine farts, I can believe Fenrir can fly because you literally see the ice magic holding him up.

    I think the Devs are getting really lazy with this, the Christmas bear has no justification to be able to fly (it should have the same ice particle effects as Kirin) and neither do these horses
    How about the magic of Christmas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Egh. With flying being a thing, mounts that can't do it aren't a viable choice and less desired and since they are used as an incentive for activity X and Y, that means you need to make them able to fly to keep the incentives intact, no matter how silly it might be.

    I expect the silliness to escalate further unless they find a way to make ground only mounts viable for travel after flying is unlocked.
    I'm not complaining about the flying itself, I'm complaining about the lack of any thought into how the mount should fly. As I said, fenrir, adamantoise, and kirin were all given extra mechanisms that explain their flight (as was the magitek armor mount), whereas christmas bear just floats with no partical effects or any kind of indication of the magic that holds him up. If the horses got wings like kirin, I would be totally on board, but it looks like we are just getting mounts that walk on thin air.

    This is a poor extension of the answer to how all mounts can swim... "because magic".

    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    How about the magic of Christmas?
    Exactly, I want to SEE the magic of Christmas, there is so much wasted potential for the flying version of the bear.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    I think you're just trying to find reasons to complain purely to complain.
    If you say so buddy. Enjoy your noclip horse, however I will look at it in disgust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    If you say so buddy. Enjoy your noclip horse, however I will look at it in disgust.
    Lol, ok? You seem pretty salty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Lol, ok? You seem pretty salty.
    I'm not salty, I'm just laughing that my legitimate opinion is being countered by the non-argument of "you're just trying to find reasons to complain purely to complain," hence my dismissal of it. Disagree with me if you like, but that's the wrong way to argue your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I'm not salty, I'm just laughing that my legitimate opinion is being countered by the non-argument of "you're just trying to find reasons to complain purely to complain," hence my dismissal of it. Disagree with me if you like, but that's the wrong way to argue your point.
    Wrong way? I just find it a non issue because it's a fantasy game where anything can happen. Not everything needs reason or rhyme, especially not here on the OF to begin with either. {/shrug}

    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    How about they take away 30 potency from your healing spells then lets call it a small change. Because going from 100 potency to 70 is a lot when tri-bond is needed for large pulls. That is like almost loosing 1/3 of its potency.
    "Needed" SMNs were doing fine with original Tri-Bind when doing AoE. It only needed to be buffed now due to gimped Bane because of Scholar. Everyone is crying murder because SMN was doing more than SAM and now you want to cry about SAM doing too much? Lol? SMN will be fine, Tri-Bind still does more than it used to. I'm not even going to grace the healer change with a proper argument because that's just a stupid change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
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    I think you're just trying to find reasons to complain purely to complain.
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