Thread: Patch 4.2 Notes (Preliminary)

Originally Posted by Hasrat

Will all housing purchases be limited to FCs for a period?

They said in the Live Letter that houses would only be limited to FCs for a set amount of time, however these patch notes seem to indicate that certain plots will always by FC-only. We should get a definitive answer when the special housing website goes live.

All these people saying they'll never do MSQ Roulette now just proves how flawed the Roulette system is to begin with. The intent behind it was to get vets to help new players experience old content, but of course nobody actually cares about the new players, they just care about that sweet loot.

Not trying to act holier than thou. I never did MSQ Roulette before this patch, and I'm certainly not going to after. I'm not sure if there is a real way to incentivize people to help newbies, but this roulette system sure ain't it.

Originally Posted by Beckett

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Mass majority only care about the reward this is true, but if SE doesnt give any reward for running dungeon, would ppl care more about sprouts? Maybe a minor group. If they would not give anything for me running this dungeon its non existence for me and for many other ppl too. This was compensate for sprouts and for veterans for queing up (and indirectly helping them to finisht this dungeon) if your doing it for reward or not, doesnt matter.

Its SE fault and not the communitys fault, we begged since 2.0 for fixing this shit, to make it instance, but nope, lets brute force it. Yay. Well the reason why now is probably to make new/veteran to buy the story skip. <_<
Its all according to the plan.

Originally Posted by Beckett

All these people saying they'll never do MSQ Roulette now just proves how flawed the Roulette system is to begin with. The intent behind it was to get vets to help new players experience old content, but of course nobody actually cares about the new players, they just care about that sweet loot.

Not trying to act holier than thou. I never did MSQ Roulette before this patch, and I'm certainly not going to after. I'm not sure if there is a real way to incentivize people to help newbies, but this roulette system sure ain't it.

It's not that people don't care about new players, it's the unnecessary time extension of the duty that a lot of people have gripe over. CM and Prae have well over 40+ minutes of cutscenes, that's probably including the credits and all after beating Prae, and now you're going to be forced to sit through all of those cutscenes again because of people wanting immersion. So it becomes a serious time constraint for those who were looking to just get it done and over with.

What happens if a person goes afk while in the middle of a cutscene? This was the whole reason why we got auto kick and was able to skip those cutscenes in the first place, because people were going afk and abusing such a system. I remember not even being able to so much as run CM because people were queuing up and afking at the opening cutscene for the sake of trolling. So this is so much of a step backwards than forwards and seems more like SE thinking money first, since this'll force more players to just buy story jump potions instead.

Originally Posted by LalaRu

RIP MSQ roulette? I think not. but sprouts finally can experience the grand final of 2.0 without all the jerks ruining it today.

True..I was trying to get one of my friends to start playing the game with me. They were watching a dungeon. I hit skip on the cut scenes, they said "hey! you can't see the story?" I said "No people get mad, I've never seen what's in these except for what they show if you use the story journal in an inn or if I find it on youtube, you can't do that or they will leave you behind or kick you, I hit skip." No I won't want a game that's story orientated to skip all the cutscenes every dungeon because people can't wait long enough to let them play. And you've never seen them in an actual dungeon or raid yourself which means I'll NEVER see any of them." So that was the end of that. I shouldn't have let her watch the dungeon, I forgot about skip in trying to show her the graphics, large fights, exciting parts, of the game.

Originally Posted by LaurieB

True..I was trying to get one of my friends to start playing the game with me. They were watching a dungeon. I hit skip on the cut scenes, they said "hey! you can't see the story?" I said "No people get mad, I've never seen what's in these except for what they show if you use the story journal in an inn or if I find it on youtube, you can't do that or they will leave you behind or kick you, I hit skip." No I won't want a game that's story orientated to skip all the cutscenes every dungeon because people can't wait long enough to let them play. And you've never seen them in an actual dungeon or raid yourself which means I'll NEVER see any of them." So that was the end of that. I shouldn't have let her watch the dungeon, I forgot about skip in trying to show her the graphics, large fights, exciting parts, of the game.

People don't care that much about it in normal dungeons. A first-timer in there watching the cutscenes isn't disruptive because it occurs literally twice: right at the beginning when you're still in the circle of waiting, and right before the last boss which is generally just a quick boss intro (the Stone Vigil one is pretty long). But in CM and Prae... holy crap there are a lot of them and they're all lengthy. That's the complaint here. Personally I don't mind if a new player wants to watch the cutscenes. I watched them. They're part of the story. But I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be frustrated with a 15 minute dungeon taking 45 minutes because of cutscenes.

Originally Posted by Callinon

People don't care that much about it in normal dungeons. A first-timer in there watching the cutscenes isn't disruptive because it occurs literally twice: right at the beginning when you're still in the circle of waiting, and right before the last boss which is generally just a quick boss intro (the Stone Vigil one is pretty long). But in CM and Prae... holy crap there are a lot of them and they're all lengthy. That's the complaint here. I don't mind if a new player wants to watch the cutscenes. But I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be frustrated with a 15 minute dungeon taking 45 minutes because of cutscenes.

I did not say anyone's opinion is unreasonable. I am simply stating that there are times when it affects people that are new to the game. It was an example. I am not discounting anyone's opinion on this, yours is as valid as mine in my view. I was just giving an example of the other side of this.

Did anyone see the cutscene textbox size change in the patch notes? It was in the Dev blog but I couldn't see it in the patch notes. I was excited for that change