The door is wide open

[Miyaka_Vigiles]

You usually see alot of players (OP is an example) saying I tryed this and it was bad, I checked that and it was a fail game even though they got a good/high playerbase.

Man, you are contradicting yourself, you cant say that "this device is bad becoz many contsumers want it", that doesnt make sence.

What you went throught is a search for a thing you like and didnt find it. The game xyz was NOT bad, it wasnt what you are looking for.

FFXIV didnt get destryed by anyone, they just shooted them self in the foot. Wasting alot of money and resources on graphics to please your dazziling eyes, and then what? Clucky UI, no end-game content, lagg, TONS and missing basic game features.

Regarding other MMOs:

1- Rift : you many not like the game but you cant not deny that its very polished.
2- SWOTR: didnt play it but it seems polished too.

If your bashing other games coz they simply didnt a peal to you, then you are a hater!

[alexi14]

You should check out Eve online.

Blade and Soul, Guild Wars II.

They worry me

[Ilean]

If your bashing other games coz they simply didnt a peal to you, then you are a hater!

^ QFT

Not liking any amount of games for whatever personal reasons = perfectly OK.

Pretending your reasons for not liking those games are totally objective and logical = fanboy.

[NefarioCall]

So i went to the local EB games and had a talk with the guy working there about Rift and The Old Republic.
I bought a copy of TOR and have been playing it for most of the day (aside from a break to get my Goobue).

It does remind me a lot of WoW and the graphics, for better or worse feel very similar to 'Knights of the Old Republic'.
They aren't that good, but they are good enough that if used artistically, the game world will look memorable.
I suppose this is usually the case.

The voiced cut scenes though are a very solid idea that i hope SE goes forward with as they have been considering.
Whatever ones argument about the success and failure of TOR in certain aspects,
i feel i must conclude at this point that it will survive for many years.
The game certainly has some exciting potential for future content, and based on the brand, there is likely to always be a dedicated player base just as there is with FFXIV ... although a substantially bigger one given the size of the Star Wars fandom.

Although this didn't save Warhammer.
Anyways.

As a couple of other posters in this thread have mentioned, i too an bias to Japanese culture in general so my tilt of favour to this game is clear.
Still, ... from everything i am playing in FFXIV currently and from keeping up with what we do know about 2.0,
i have no real doubts that FFXIV can easily be the better game.

Graphically, as i wrote above, you can have the prettiest textures but art design is where a game wins or fails.
I am personally blown away by how high a bar has been set with the 2.0 art design.

Musically, personal preference.

Now, one could say the game play mechanics are also in personal preference, ... to a degree.
I am personally very happy that at least part of this games 'Original Vision' is being honoured.
For us to be able to have 'mog houses' that operate as a base of operations for our entire linkshell, with furnishing, gardening, ships etc is the kind of game play that raises the bar from kill stuff.
As is also crafting, which i have seen none of in TOR yet, though i would think it is there?

I do hope SE pays close attention to quests though.
Go here, kill that is boring.
I give credit to TOR for (and voice acting really helps here),
at least trying to give a fleshed out purpose to its secondary quests.
And so even though they are still go and kill stuff, there feels like a purpose is involved.

But what IMO would really set the bar higher would be to multi layer secondary quests.
I could use LA Noire as an example. Investigate a scene. Clues lead to other scenes and etc.
I don't think LA Noire took this nearly deep enough, but that's an off topic discussion and its own.
Still, and i think i see SE doing this but i want to see more,
Where a simple, well written quest leads to new branches only obtainable from the initial quest line that lead to unexpected places. More of this and less of the copy pasta kill stuff quests.

[OminousAnonymous]

Please don't put Rift on SWOTORS level. It didn't do NEAR as bad. And I think it's an Exceptional game.
Although problably true that it didn't create anything amazing for the MMO genre, besides the cool random rift encounters.

But anyways. Unlike Swotor.. Rift has content. lol

[OminousAnonymous]

But what IMO would really set the bar higher would be to multi layer secondary quests.
I could use LA Noire as an example. Investigate a scene. Clues lead to other scenes and etc.
I don't think LA Noire took this nearly deep enough, but that's an off topic discussion and its own.
Still, and i think i see SE doing this but i want to see more,
Where a simple, well written quest leads to new branches only obtainable from the initial quest line that lead to unexpected places. More of this and less of the copy pasta kill stuff quests.

WoW and Rift already do this. It's refered to as a "Chain quest".

[Hhaven]

Have you looked at PSO 2? It looks really fun ^^ I can't wait to play it!!....

X...X...X...Y!!! lol. PSO was the first MMO i ever played. Good times =). Thank you for the video, had no idea there was another one coming out. It looks like it improved a bit. I wish they would of showed Forces though ; ;

[Cichy]

Please don't put Rift on SWOTORS level. It didn't do NEAR as bad. And I think it's an Exceptional game.
Although problably true that it didn't create anything amazing for the MMO genre, besides the cool random rift encounters.

But anyways. Unlike Swotor.. Rift has content. lol

Rift sold enough copies and subscriptions to make good profit. It may not be around for next 15 years but it succeeded where it matters. Made money and gave those devs MMO making experience.

[Krausus]

you could try out DC Universe Online, its free to play now and is decent enough, its action based and an OK time killer.

[Bahn]

X...X...X...Y!!! lol. PSO was the first MMO i ever played. Good times =). Thank you for the video, had no idea there was another one coming out. It looks like it improved a bit. I wish they would of showed Forces though ; ;

Didn't you get the message? It's a common joke that Forces suck in PSO (unless they're wearing horribly overpowered gear). This is Sega's way of acknowledging it by not showing much footage of them! /sarcasm