Sad experiences of a newbie

[Cherrytop]

But here's another suggestion Transfer to Faerie, come join the FC I'm in. We'll do dungeon runs together and no one will be vicious I promise.

I play on EU and tend to go for very populated servers (I don't like waiting for my queues for very long), I actually have no idea if queueing in this game is cross-server or not.

Is it okay if I ask what they were getting what you for?

I'm used to more traditional healing model - me, a healer, just heal. From the garbage thrown my way I gathered I'm supposed to dps too. Apparently for most people I healed too little, dps'd too little, then healed too little, then dps'd too little... you get the idea. I admit, I'm a slow learner, and learning how to juggle healing, dps and buffs (I decided to focus on astrologian) is tough for me, since I don't get a lot of time to play in general.

[Jijifli]

I'm used to more traditional healing model - me, a healer, just heal. From the garbage thrown my way I gathered I'm supposed to dps too. Apparently for most people I healed too little, dps'd too little, then healed too little, then dps'd too little... you get the idea. I admit, I'm a slow learner, and learning how to juggle healing, dps and buffs (I decided to focus on astrologian) is tough for me, since I don't get a lot of time to play in general.

Healer dps can be helpful and I do encourage it (ABC, Always Be Casting,) but it sounds like they took it too much to heart. I do recommend seeing where you can fit in at least dots and try to go from there, but if you can't it's not that huge of a concern. If you have access to the Novice Network, you can ask for assistance too in there, since people are willing to help. You'll get the hang of how it works on this game eventually, I'll admit healers getting room to dps is a throw off to people used to traditional "If I stop casting heals he dies."

[Rinuko]

Healer dps can be helpful and I do encourage it (ABC, Always Be Casting,) but it sounds like they took it too much to heart. I do recommend seeing where you can fit in at least dots and try to go from there, but if you can't it's not that huge of a concern. If you have access to the Novice Network, you can ask for assistance too in there, since people are willing to help. You'll get the hang of how it works on this game eventually, I'll admit healers getting room to dps is a throw off to people used to traditional "If I stop casting heals he dies."

Eh, i managed to level my healers with little to no dps. It helps yes but if people complain on low DPS i just leave the group

[Minako_Nightsong]

I never had any real problems in pick up groups until I started to level my white mage up in Stormblood. I had leveled two dps beforehand.

Bardam's Mettle is when it started and it continued until I hit 70. We were all still in leveling gear and many had no experience in the dungeons yet tanks would try to pull three groups at a time and dps started boss fights while tanks were still watching cutscenes. I also still messed up sometimes. (this was week 3)

I was called some of the worse things you can imagine over very silly and minor things and told more than once how my mother or myself should commit suicide for things like forgetting to use protect. I don't care if I am wiping every pull or not communicating well nobody deserves to be talked to like this even on the internet. This community was no better or worse than WoW but even there I didn't get the kind of hate I did on my whm 65-70 so I totally sympathize with the OP on this. When the time came for me to level my paladin I almost didn't bother but I ended up having none of these social problems despite making a lot more mistakes. I also noticed the healers in my groups still got jumped on for any little thing when I raised my other jobs.

As for the dpsing issue. I did very little as I leveled up and this was one thing Nobody ever complained about. I also do not care if the healer does a lot of dps in my leveling parties. I think you should start to weave that in once you are level capped and you start doing trials and 8/24 man raids. I never thought I could learn to do that but now it's second nature to do so and it really helps out.

[KaldeaSahaline]

I play on EU and tend to go for very populated servers (I don't like waiting for my queues for very long), I actually have no idea if queueing in this game is cross-server or not.

It is cross server and so is the party finder tool (lets you build a pre-made group).

I'm used to more traditional healing model - me, a healer, just heal. From the garbage thrown my way I gathered I'm supposed to dps too. Apparently for most people I healed too little, dps'd too little, then healed too little, then dps'd too little... you get the idea. I admit, I'm a slow learner, and learning how to juggle healing, dps and buffs (I decided to focus on astrologian) is tough for me, since I don't get a lot of time to play in general.

That's a very fair assumption to make, as this game is particularly strange in its design.

As a healer you are expected to DPS. The reason for that is because on average the healing required in 90%+ of the content in the game can be handled by very few button presses leading you to have a staggering amount of downtime. I've recorded healers in DF who did not DPS being active less than 20% of the time. Imagine if the tank or DPS's were only active 20% of the time? That wouldn't be a very fun run.

In all your leveling did you never feel like you were kind of just sitting still doing nothing a lot of the time? Were you filling time with healing people at 90% HP that didn't need to really be healed? In this game outside of combat passive regeneration is incredibly powerful so when you spend a lot of time keeping HP bars at max (when it's not needed) you end up wasting that benefit.

The reason why the community is hostile over it is because the difference between a healer strictly healing and a healer who DPS's is insane. That said, in no circumstances is it ever ok to harass a player over this. I'd be really curious if you remember what they specifically said. If it was truly vile, it's definitely report worthy as we want you to stick with the game.

I'd be glad to help you personally, but unfortunately I am on NA. I am sure some EU people would love to make it up to you.

[Avatre]

I play on EU and tend to go for very populated servers (I don't like waiting for my queues for very long), I actually have no idea if queueing in this game is cross-server or not.

The way queuing works in XIV is it's based on data center. So anyone on the same data center with you is a potential party member if they are queuing for something in the same roulette scope/same dungeon as you are. Sometime, unfortunately, you will run into people like the ones who you have already met, but more often than not, there is practically no chatting in dungeons aside from the initial hello and final thank you. Of course there are exceptions, but that goes with everything.

I'm not sure if it was because of the data center, time of day, or just bad luck getting people who honestly have no patience to help new players. But, it typically does get better(sometimes it takes a transfer off the center to not be a part of that).

[Squintina]

I play on EU and tend to go for very populated servers (I don't like waiting for my queues for very long), I actually have no idea if queueing in this game is cross-server or not.

Well I'm sure if you ask around you can find another FC that will be nice enough to do runs without you rather than using DF. DF is cross server (but not cross data center. There are multiple data centers each with multiple servers)

I'm used to more traditional healing model - me, a healer, just heal. From the garbage thrown my way I gathered I'm supposed to dps too. Apparently for most people I healed too little, dps'd too little, then healed too little, then dps'd too little... you get the idea. I admit, I'm a slow learner, and learning how to juggle healing, dps and buffs (I decided to focus on astrologian) is tough for me, since I don't get a lot of time to play in general.

While I do understand that as I came from WoW where healing is more ...healy , didn't you feel there were times when you didn't really need to heal and could maybe put in some other things?

Even in WoW, once a piece of content became super easy and we were basically in farm mode, I'd be asked to either switch to DPS spec (and let the other healer solo heal) or throw out a few things here and there while staying in healer spec. Maybe my group was unique in that way, and it certainly only happened once we reached "farm"-like conditions and not for any content where we were actually working hard, but it did happen. I definitely remember doing this on the first 2 bosses of the lich king raid many times.

Anyway, unless people are doing high-level content and you're trying and not just standing around (and not spamming heals when everyone is pretty much already topped off), it shouldn't matter if your dps is super high, most people will be content to just see you try. You can always try doing it gradually.

Comfort level -1:"I'm not trying" (hopefully you're not here): I'll heal when I feel like it but I'll do nothing even when no one needs healing for multiple seconds at a time and just watch videos or something.
Comfort level 0: I'm active but the only thing I'll do are healing spells and mana regeneration. Nothing else.
Comfort level 1: I'll heal whenever I feel I need to, but I'll at least keep one dot up as much as possible
Comfort level 2: I'll heal when people get < 70%, keep one dot up, and throw attacks out when above 70%
Comfort level 3: I'll heal when people get around 50%, but other wise keep learning to dps. If I'm playing a class/job with more than one dot, I'll try to make sure they're both up and also throw occasional attacks.
Comfort level 4: I'll see how far I can push it while not being overly stressed out.
Comfort level 5: END GAME: I'll see how far I can push it as long as we don't die even if it stresses me out

These comfort levels can change for each instance, and depending on how good the rest of the group is, but the idea is to try to work towards the highest level possible.

I would also recommend finding someone in NN or FC to practice casting heals on to get a feel of how strong your healing skills are so you can best determine if it's necessary to heal or if you can wait a bit and throw out another Stone.

[Mr_Gyactus]

I'm used to more traditional healing model - me, a healer, just heal.

WAIT WAIT WAIT stop this!

you know, I'm in the same server I'm a main healer, never had a complain.

They could be more sympathetic and polite, but I'm sure 99% is your fault.

This game has its own rules, you cannot "spam heal" and think "i'm doing fine". You aren't.

My advice is "begin from level 1" as conjurer -> whm or arcanist -> scholar and understand every skill
Another good advice is "try to play as tank or melee dps", you will see how others play the healing class.

P.S. I play healer in WoW, in Lotro, in RIFT... everyone is different.

[Chortle]

I'm used to more traditional healing model - me, a healer, just heal.

Here's the reason that doesn't work in FFXIV. Your heals do a lot more than in most other games relative to the damage tanks receive. You have down time and other skills at your disposal. Same can be said for any class.

Even if a tank has agro on every mob pulled, if all he/she is doing is spamming their taunts, they are not doing what the class was designed to do. Same goes for healers.

These people sound like they were rude, and that is not warranted. You should be healing, dpsing, and managing your mana though.

[Vstarstruck]

I'm used to more traditional healing model - me, a healer, just heal. From the garbage thrown my way I gathered I'm supposed to dps too. Apparently for most people I healed too little, dps'd too little, then healed too little, then dps'd too little... you get the idea. I admit, I'm a slow learner, and learning how to juggle healing, dps and buffs (I decided to focus on astrologian) is tough for me, since I don't get a lot of time to play in general.

you do not heal that often in this game, leads to a lot of downtime, so your expected to help dps otherwise it appears you are not doing much. never really seen off the wall harassment of lacking dps as a healer.