Sad experiences of a newbie

[ElazulHP]

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I'd agree to a point. If someone is being POLITE and offering constructive advice then yeah. If someone is being vicious and a total douche what you're saying isn't going to help.

OP: Report the people harassing you. The GM's take harassment reports seriously and will investigate.

[Metalwrath]

5 simple words:

"You don't pay my sub."

For real, if they don't like how you're playing then tell them they are free to vote kick. 95% of the time they'll shut up and act like nothing happened. If they don't, stop healing them. Let them die and don't rez.

Don't be a floor mat for these schmucks.

Best of luck,

This is also known as the response bad players give in dungeons when they refuse to stop purposely being bad and ignore advice.

[whiskeybravo]

This is also known as the response bad players give in dungeons when they refuse to stop purposely being bad and ignore advice.

I mean, I guess that ultimately depends on your definition of "advice"

In almost every dungeon I've been doing I have had abuse hurled at me... it was personal and targeted... downright vicious and really exhausting.

Is this your definition of advice?

[Metalwrath]

I mean, I guess that ultimately depends on your definition of "advice"



Is this your definition of advice?

You wont just get random people in every instance hurling insults at you for no reason.If there is a constant pattern its not the randoms that are causing it and its something with the individual.
Its better to get to the bottom of whats causing the conflict be it intentional or uninentional than advise the new player to be a prick back to them.

[SenorPatty]

5 simple words:

"You don't pay my sub."

For real, if they don't like how you're playing then tell them they are free to vote kick. 95% of the time they'll shut up and act like nothing happened. If they don't, stop healing them. Let them die and don't rez.

Don't be a floor mat for these schmucks.

Best of luck,

"You don't pay mine either"

[whiskeybravo]

"You don't pay mine either"

Because direct verbal abuse of a player is equivalent to a dungeon taking 3 extra minutes?

Intelligent.

[Skivvy]

Because direct verbal abuse of a player is equivalent to a dungeon taking 3 extra minutes?

Intelligent.

Point is, if someone is being a twat, you don't stoop to their level. What good does that accomplish? All that will most likely happen is you'll end up in someone's story in the "Tales from DF" thread about this horrible sprout they ran into who wouldn't listen to advice, and claimed "you don't pay my sub!".

[SenorPatty]

Because direct verbal abuse of a player is equivalent to a dungeon taking 3 extra minutes?

Intelligent.

This quote below pretty much lays across what I was going for with what I said.

Point is, if someone is being a twat, you don't stoop to their level. What good does that accomplish? All that will most likely happen is you'll end up in someone's story in the "Tales from DF" thread about this horrible sprout they ran into who wouldn't listen to advice, and claimed "you don't pay my sub!".

With that out of the way, I'm just going to point one more thing as well. Abuse aside (which I don't condone in the first place), I've seen enough in "Tales of DF" where someone simply points out what someone else is doing wrong, as neutrally as possible and they're given the "you don't pay my sub" line. Some people view being called out as harassment. In these forums alone, I've seen people accuse others of being toxic just for disagreeing plainly with them.

I'm not discounting the OP's complaints but at the same time, I can't discount the possibility that OP could take being called out as harassment either. Either way, "You don't pay my sub" does nothing in the neutral and abusive situation. The better solution is blacklist, report for abuse and walk away. You can view this as a sign of cowardice or flatmat if you want but at the end of the day, personally, I'd rather not escalate and risk putting myself in a position where now I end up saying things I should never say in the first place than doing it to prove something.

[MistakeNot]

5 simple words:

"You don't pay my sub."

Anyone who uses that excuse deserves a vote kick - it is quite irrelevant who is paying for a subscription.

[Metalwrath]

Anyone who uses that excuse deserves a vote kick - it is quite irrelevant who is paying for a subscription.

In dungeons thats usually my response to someone saying it XD.
Its only way to teach those kind of players any manners.