Sad experiences of a newbie

[RitsukoSonoda]

When I queue as healer I always start with the disclaimer that I am the worst healer in the history of MMO's and they should be thankful we didn't all load in dead... >.>

Sadly yes this has happened in the past. Once was a 24 man raid duty too XD

I'm also somehow responsible for killing a member of my previous FC in gold saucer too...

[AppleJinx]

in almost every dungeon??? Yeah okay I am almost certain that you are not telling the whole story here

[Cakekizyy]

Ragnarok is the eu raid hub as far as i have heard so that might not help. The duty finder is cross server so ques are the same. If you feel like spending a little bit of money to server hop come to Lich and look up Blue moon we are a small but very helpful fc and will help you get more comfortable with the healing role. ^^

Also will give you people to run duties with so less toxic people

Why does a server being raid hub or not matter since DF is cross server?

[Ilyrian]

Does your experience mirror the OP's?

As you say: no, my experience doesn't mirror the OP's because I'm good at healing. I'm good at healing dungeons. I have been from the day I stared because I have been healing in MMOs for the past 12 years. No, I'm not on the bleeding edge of content and I haven't even set foot in Savage yet – but I know how to heal and, IMHO, heal well. So nobody has ever called me out, been rude or harassed me. That is my experience. Obviously the OP has had different one.

People are dicks. People are dicks online. People are dicks in MMOs. I'm not defending anyone being a dick in any sense but it will happen if you're joining a group and can't perform the role you joined to do. Being a healer is not only being good at your job - it's carrying the bad that goes with it - this is not just FFXIV, it all of any online content where you have to take a responsibly, a responsible role. As I said, I have never had a bad experience in an FFXIV dungeon as a healer - at least nothing that I could blame myself for. I'm not a god of healers - I, like the vast majority other players just get on with it.

[Nedkel]

That's my point though, context matters. If they are literally saying something regarding actual numbers, they might get banned obviously but if they ask something in passing like "wow this is taking a while" or "we hit enrage dps is kinda low, can everyone push a bit more? (this is like an obvious conclusion, does not require a parser, it is how the enrage mechanic works)" I really doubt they would get banned.

Maybe for general harassment which would be warranted (nothing to do with a parser, just someone being a jerk multiple times) but I really doubt they are going to assume you are using a parser just because you say "why are jumping around?" or "why are you afk?" and ban you for parsing, that would be hilarious and mostly pointless. By the way, asking someone why they are afk isn't harassment.

Its all lottery, but still multiple reports will lead to the ban, that is nothing we could argue about.
If you see someone "wow your damage is low" or "your dmg suk" or "you do no damage" you cant really tell if the person really is parsing, but if he will continue to receive reports on his person, he will get banned sooner or later.
Just report, report and report.
If someone cant keep it polite in multiplayer, he doesnt deserve to play it.

The request for DPS isn't the problem here, it's the manner in which it's put forth.

If I spot a healer spam curing a full HP tank or simply standing around, I'm fine to politely suggest that they could try filling in some of those blanks with dots and seeing how they go from there, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'll come queue a dungeon with you right now and you can report me after saying it if you wish, that's how much faith I have in that statement.

However, I could spout some profanity laced sentence regarding just about anything, it could be about your DPS or it could even be about your hairstyle for all the GM team cares. What matters, is the wording that I used, not the subject I was referring to.

Two good examples of this would be an LS mate earning a temp ban for politely asking to get kicked from some roulette (Ironically, it was one of the few times he was actually polite, we laughed at him, a lot). The other would be stink that got kicked up here a bit back over someone who finally won a primal mount they had been farming for a while, came out with something akin to 'f**k me, finally' and again, got reported and temp banned over it despite the fact that it wasn't even aimed at anyone.

Know your facts before you make such wide arching statements =(

You just wrote the post basing on the part of mine post taken out of context.
Your mate got banned after multiple reports, any conclusion here?
Harassment has very versatile meanings and ToS open the possibilities to ban everyone just "because", since it does not specify what you could say what to anyone.
And im pretty sure, the OP was not asked politely but being sarcastically judged over his "performance" (whatever that means on under 50 lvl dungeons lol).
Saying something "wow our healer does absolute zero" or "our healer does zero damage" or "our healer doesnt do nothing at all we are playing in 3" will get you banned.
First because you judge the class that is not designed by the developer to do specific action.
Second because you harassed a newbie
Third, its against ToS, nobody cares if the certain combination of words is prohibited or not as long as you get reported few times, even kicking player out from the party could be seen as a ToS violation.

[Rokke]

Its all lottery, but still multiple reports will lead to the ban, that is nothing we could argue about. If you see someone "wow your damage is low" or "your dmg suk" or "you do no damage" you cant really tell if the person really is parsing, but if he will continue to receive reports on his person, he will get banned sooner or later.
Just report, report and report.

Reporting does not necessarily equal a strike on your account. If it did it'd be the easiest way to abuse someone you don't like lol.

Third, its against ToS, nobody cares if the certain combination of words is prohibited or not as long as you get reported few times, even kicking player out from the party could be seen as a ToS violation.

Swing and a miss - GMs have explicitly explained that kicking players who do not conform to your ideal playstyle is allowed and accepted as a valid reason to kick.

[VanilleFang]

???

This whole post is full of untruths and misconceptions about the ToS. Reports do not equal strikes, kicking a healer for not dpsing is not reportable, rudely berating a healer for not dpsing is reportable because it is rude and has nothing to do with the job's intended design...

Like I don't even understand where you got some of your information.

[Fhaerron]

Have you ever thought of the idea that perhaps it may not be all you, but the attitude and expectation of the server you are in?
What you can do is try a different server with a new character and check out the people there... Scout around a bit.
Healing isn't the easiest job out there...

If people start using abusive language towards you, report them.
You shouldn't have to deal with that in any game.

Also, you have the option to leave the map as well to get away from the abusive language.
Sure, I like to finish what I start. However, if people prove to me that they do not deserve my presence by treating me in sub-human format...
I leave and let them sweat a bit.

The 30 minutes away helps cool me down too...
Just do not let the community ruin the game for you.

Uh DF is cross-world.
Changing servers won't change anything.

[Alleo]

I am a bit late to this topic but still going to post my thoughts.

I am always a bit skeptic about such topics. I remember one where someone posted in defence for their wife and how she was threated only to have her join the discussion and showing everyone how she really was and that it was her fault. I am not saying that it was the fault of the OP but I am also not sure that only the others can be blamed for this situation.

First if something like that happens quite often and with random different players, then the person is either really unlucky or maybe its partly their fault too. Being rude is never good, no matter if they are right about the topic or not, but its quite telling if that happens a lot.

Maybe they did not even say it in a rude way but the OP took it wrong because he might have never been called out like that in other games? Sometimes you can take this the wrong way and maybe those people did just post it a bit more bluntly. Maybe they were just plainly mean or maybe there is a problem with the language barrier (not everyone has english a a main language) so maybe the intend was misunderstood. We will never know since we dont have a screenshot of these chats.

The OP did post that it was partly his DPS but also wrote that they said: Too little healing. This kinda makes it sound more like that he either did not manage to keep the people alive or maybe he just stood around, did not DPS even though he had the time but also did not heal enough thus letting them drop too low. Again this is just speculation but saying "little healing" makes it sound like even the main part of the job was not done right.

My advice on that:

Try not to take such things personally. I speek from experience since I considered quitting this game too after that one early dungeon experience. We were in the mine with a toxic player where I as a DD was healing, tanking with my egi and DPSing since we were without a healer and the tank could not survive long without heals, yet the one DD was pissed that we wiped at the end boss. x) Which was honestly no wonder because we did him wrong. I took this as an attack against myself even though I did try my best at that moment and he himself was also not better. That one little thing nearly let me stop playing this game. So dont take things like that personal. Think about the comments even if they are rude and try to see if its truly on your side or if this just a jerk. If they are way too rude then report them. Otherwise if you always just get negative comments one should condsider that they are the problem.

I had one player from my former FC complaining that they are kicked from a lot of dungeons...well she was someone that often got carriered by us if we helped her because she was not able to do the basics of her monk (she used like one or two skills)..we tried to give her advice but she never took it and thus we barely took her with us on extreme farms. Instead of trying to get better she threw some insults to us and left the FC...it truly was no great loss.