Dear PLDs

[Dualblade]

No one is forcing them to do anything but their role they signed up for when they joined the duty finder. If they are doing anything above and beyond, fine, but stop sacrificing your primary role in the group.

Well healing draws aggro so it seems perfectly acceptable from that line of thought.

[Nedkel]

Well healing draws aggro so it seems perfectly acceptable from that line of thought.

It will not pull the mobs from the tank who know what he is doing.

Healer should be there for heal, not for dealing damage.
Leave damage dealing to dps, they have better aoe's.

[Dualblade]

It will not pull the mobs from the tank who know what he is doing.

Healer should be there for heal, not for dealing damage.
Leave damage dealing to dps, they have better aoe's.

I ment in regards to PLDs using Clemancy, shoulda said that.

[MahoSenshi]

Leave damage dealing to dps, they have better aoe's

Except many of them don't. Aero III into Thin-Aired / PotM-ed Holy spam with a dose of Assize is more burst AoE DPS than most DPS jobs are capable of.

[Awful]

Leave damage dealing to dps, they have better aoe's.

You can establish aggro and use your Total Eclipse and do some AoE damage to contribute there's literally no reason to spam Flash until you're blue in the face.

[Zhamkyong]

So... I am reading the tank forums because i was starting to tanking but... is this serious? do some players really get salty because a tank heals himself or other for a bit?

[winsock]

While I agree that DF plds spamming clemency isn't optimal... This is a pretty petty complaint.

[Greyhawk]

Well healing draws aggro so it seems perfectly acceptable from that line of thought.

And that had nothing to do with what you quoted from me, and a different issue. And, the issue was originally about PLD using Clemency. That's fine, I main PLD now, DRK is trash, utter trash. So, the next time I'm at 10% health and the healer is spamming DPS Stone and Holy, because they wanna be l337 in the group, that's fine too. They can expect a healthy ear of 'WTF'.

[Greyhawk]

You can establish aggro and use your Total Eclipse and do some AoE damage to contribute there's literally no reason to spam Flash until you're blue in the face.

And unfortunately, as I've said before - with potency and damage levels being increased while tanking is being nerfed makes no sense either. Using flash x3 on a mob, one after another and still not being able to pull agro from RDMs and WHMs spamming DPS abilities doesn't justify them doing that until they are blue in the face either. I don't understand why so many DPS/heal DPS try like absolute hell to pull mobs from tanks. It's a balance, not a competition.

[Aana]

Holy spam is the best spam. All whms should spam that shiz in dungeons. How anyone thinks that stunning an entire pack of monsters and dealing craycray damage is 'bad' is beyond me. Its literally the embodiment of the best defense is a good offense. Freezing all monster damage while killing them, we should all be so lucky to have Holy spam whms in our dungeons.

I thought we were over the "Healers heal, tanks tank, DPS dps. Just do ur jerb" crap. Jobs have tools to do things. Use them all to do more things. Ignoring half your skill bar because 'its not my jerb' is petty, wasteful, and selfish. Whm has holy for a reason. Pld has clemency for a reason. War has shake it off for a reason. Enmity combos have more than 0 potency for a reason.

A player who uses their ENTIRE kit is better than one that doesn't. If you refuse to use your entire kit you are being bad at 'job'. Refusing to use tools your job has because of a fabricated ruleset you made up in youre head is dumb. You arbitrarily decided that healers don't do DPS, yet there are many skills your job has that do DPS. Stop applying your imaginary job template and use the jobs that are actually in the game.