Why the hate with endgame fights?

[MoroMurasaki]

I mean...there's more examples like 2 posts under that highly upvoted that blanket non-raiders in a negative light with no basis of fact supporting them. And while you deem it a joke, can you be certain everyone else will perceive it as such.

But by all means, you all can go on being mystified by and angry at the reality that some folks consider the end game community as toxic.

I'm not mystified by it or angry about it at all because I've known for years that people with no common sense existed. Takes the mystery right out

[Jerichai]

I'm not mystified by it or angry about it at all because I've known for years that people with no common sense existed. Takes the mystery right out

If you think the fact that some people who decide they don't want to interact with those who appear to be okay with spreading falsehoods about them are lacking lacking common sense...I'm not sure what to tell you.

The end game community on the one hand seems to get more people into the higher levels of content...by treating reluctant onlookers with basic respect seems to be a stretch they're not willing to take.

[MoroMurasaki]

If you think the fact that some people who decide they don't want to interact with those who appear to be okay with spreading falsehoods about them are lacking lacking common sense...I'm not sure what to tell you.

The end game community on the one hand seems to get more people into the higher levels of content...by treating reluctant onlookers with basic respect seems to be a stretch they're not willing to take.

You say these things, please back them up. Give me examples. I wouod be more than happy to at least distance myself from anyone who has said anything along the lines of "all players who haven't completed Savage are lazy/stupid/etc." which is the claim you have made but you haven't quoted a single post.

Put your money where your mouth is.

[Jerichai]

I pointed out multiple on the first page...we literally just talked about this as you dismissed it 'as a joke'.

Judging from all the nerf posts that pop all the time, -clears throat-
"Because I want to clear everything with minimal effort and time investment! Paying for a sub means all content shouldn't be just available to me, it should be given to me!"

To be frank? People are entitled and lazy. There's really not much else to it. They don't want to do the work but they want what ever doing the work would earn them.

Some people don't have the capacity or the will to tackle endgame content. yet they still feel they are owed it and attempt to get carried. if they can't they complain.

[MoroMurasaki]

I pointed out multiple on the first page...we literally just talked about this as you dismissed it 'as a joke'.

That. Is. Not. Toxic.

If you are that easily offended I wish you the best luck out there in the real world with people who can yell instead of just type in all caps or use a bold font.

[Jerichai]

That. Is. Not. Toxic.

If you are that easily offended I wish you the best luck out there in the real world with people who can yell instead of just type in all caps or use a bold font.

Hey look....you respond to my recommendation of not making baseless assumptions about people...by making baseless assumptions about me.

[MoroMurasaki]

Hey look....you respond to my recommendation of not making baseless assumptions about people...by making baseless assumptions about me.

How is it an assumption to say "you are offended by the inoffensive thing, the world has a lot worse out there for you" when you have said this thing offends you?

The only thing I'm assuming is that your multiple posts ranting about this one post accurately express your feelings about this post.

Stop trying to weasel out of this. I've made my point, I'm done derailing Kavia's thread. Suck it up and admit you're wrong. Or don't, I'll ignore you either way

[VanilleFang]

I pointed out multiple on the first page...we literally just talked about this as you dismissed it 'as a joke'.

I actually am not an end game raider. Never have been.

My point was that people hate end game for that reason from my perspective. I haven't seen any real reason before this thread besides "I don't want to do end game stuff but I want x, that end game stuff would give me. So give me x for less work".

[Dualgunner]

If you think the fact that some people who decide they don't want to interact with those who appear to be okay with spreading falsehoods about them are lacking lacking common sense...I'm not sure what to tell you.

At this point, both casuals and raiders have had lies and slander made about them by the other side. Outliers of one end call the others lazy and unwilling to work; outliers on the other end call their opponents "toxic" and "unwilling to treat onlookers with basic respect." Let's dispense with both here and now: those are outliers on both ends.

[MoroMurasaki]

At this point, both casuals and raiders have had lies and slander made about them by the other side. Outliers of one end call the others lazy and unwilling to work; outliers on the other end call their opponents "toxic" and "unwilling to treat onlookers with basic respect." Let's dispense with both here and now: those are outliers on both ends.

So much this sentiment. Bads are bad no matter how competent they are. Most people are not bad people though. Neither the entire casual or raiding community is a cesspool, rather both have bad eggs.