Why the hate with endgame fights?

[Selova]

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The fact that you think UCoB plays even remotely like a bullet hell game is all the proof I need that you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. All your supposed "challenging" solutions have already been done before in other MMO's. It's almost like you just copy/pasted a generic WoW Boss encounter and called it a day, coordinating stuns/interrupts on mechanics (general Veezax anyone?) and dispel rotations are not even in the same realm of difficulty of beating tight enrages on top of executing mechanics. I stand by what i said, I'm still waiting for you to come up with something (at least original) that would trump a enrage timer in addition to the normal boss mechanics while at the same time making sure it's in the same realm of encounter balance.


Also, using the "I don't feel like it right now" card isn't helping your poor argument.

[Bobs]

The fact that you think UCoB plays even remotely like a bullet hell game is all the proof I need that you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Play this a times 2 speed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wALFpIwAwgo

Tell me it does not resemble a slow motion version of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyDrJJaLoo

Personal attack don't really help your case ether. Actually it strengthens mine.

Add: In-case you don't see it. Both showcase a bunch of running around to avoid the bullets.

[Selova]

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Using your logic, any encounter where you have to do any kind of moving/dancing to avoid mechanics is the same thing as a bullet hell game, which it's not. Not even close. Also, me telling you that you don't have any idea what you are talking about is not a personal attack, Nice try. Nothing about what i said strengthens any "points" you are trying to make, since that would assume you actually had a point to begin with, which you didn't. Next.

[Bobs]

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I think you are getting a little overly specific.

My point is the END GAME is just a bunch of running around, and not really challenging. I gave some things that could improve it. I gave some examples of why I think it needs to be improved. I've tried to provide constructive feedback to the OP's original question.

I'm not really sure what your point is aside from "I don't know what I'm talking about." Which you have not provided any evidence for.

[Deithwen]

I think you are getting a little overly specific.

My point is the END GAME is just a bunch of running around, and not really challenging. I gave some things that could improve it. I gave some examples of why I think it needs to be improved. I've tried to provide constructive feedback to the OP's original question.

I'm not really sure what your point is aside from "I don't know what I'm talking about." Which you have not provided any evidence for.

The fact that you say "My point is the END GAME is just a bunch of running around, and not really challenging" is the evidence that you don't know what you are talking about. And also your lack of experience and willingness to even try this content.

[Bobs]

The fact that you say "My point is the END GAME is just a bunch of running around, and not really challenging" is the evidence that you don't know what you are talking about. And also your lack of experience and willingness to even try this content.

You are assuming that I haven't.

In Os4 you are LITERALLY running around while a giant bullet chases you (call its a black hole if you like)

[Deithwen]

You are assuming that I haven't.

In Os4 you are LITERALLY running around while a giant bullet chases you (call its a black hole if you like)

Yet nothing on your lodestone profiles shows that you have cleared any of the current raids, and your previous posts also point in that direction. If you really knew o4s you would not use it to prove your point.

[Selova]

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I don't need to provide any evidence that you don't know what you're talking about, you've already done a splendid job of that. Like linking the video of UCoB and comparing it to a tohou video. You also can't make the claim that endgame isn't challenging, when you clearly aren't doing said challenging endgame.

You keep trying to draw comparisons between FFXIV's endgame and bullet hell games and failing at it, You logic is literally "If you have to move/run to avoid anything it plays exactly like a bullet hell game, I'm honestly kind of baffled how you even think the two games are remotely similiar, If that is your debate tactic then any game in existence where you have to move to avoid something is exactly like a BH game, surely you can see how ridiculous this claim is?


Like i said before, if all endgame is is a glorified bullet hell game and isn't "challenging" then you should have zero issues getting into a group to clear UCoB, Let me know how that works out for you.