Why the hate with endgame fights?

[RiyahArp]

There's no responding to someone like her, except to shut the lot up of them by showing that yes, you can still beat it and none of my points change. If you want to invoke total authority as a means to talk, the only answer is total authority back. And its stupid; you can complain about the big fish system in this game without needing to get every single one (which takes dedicated people up to two years and is a harder achievement in terms of time spent than any savage tier) but apparently raiding is this huge mystery.

As for wanting more content that is harder, go nuts. That's not really an issue here. I don't like raiders, but I've not argued it needs to be erased. there's a case for something like feast mostly because so few people do it and its so hard for them to police it. They gave ultimate for just that reason, and the only reason savage was made easier was because people literally could not handle it harder any longer. But its really not that in this; its "we need to make the bad casuals better," whenever it comes up.

[Dualgunner]

There's no responding to someone like her, except to shut the lot up of them by showing that yes, you can still beat it and none of my points change. And its stupid; you can complain about the big fish system in this game without needing to get every single one (which takes dedicated people two years and is a harder achievement in terms of time spent than any savage coil) but apparently raiding is this huge mystery.

Apparently casual content is too. And the strange thing is, we can beat it--hell, we can run it every single day--and yet it's a mystery that eludes us.

Also fun attempt at poisoning the well. "No responding to someone like her"? Really?

[Oscura]

Also fun attempt at poisoning the well. "No responding to someone like her"? Really?

Like I said, arrogance.

[KaivaC]

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Personally, I missed the opportunity to try Gordias at release...but didn't the devs admit themselves that they overtuned it? So logically, they would be cautious about their difficulty. My stance is less about 'bad casuals need to get better' and more about the player gap needs to get smaller without the devs dumbing down the combat any more than it already is.

Hopefully you see this edit before you respond, but here's a thought: step in our shoes for a minute. Rather than rail against what we are saying, see things from our perspective. I offered to actually go into Omega Savage with you - that wasn't sarcasm or a jest, I really would party up with you. I can't remember, but have you done Susano Ex? Probably the easiest primal in quite some time. And yet, a lot of times, it turns into a complete mess.

[Oscura]

There's no responding to someone like her, except to shut the lot up of them by showing that yes, you can still beat it and none of my points change. If you want to invoke total authority as a means to talk, the only answer is total authority back. And its stupid; you can complain about the big fish system in this game without needing to get every single one (which takes dedicated people up to two years and is a harder achievement in terms of time spent than any savage tier) but apparently raiding is this huge mystery.

Weren't you the one who just said that raiders can't understand the casual player-base since they're not on that level or were never on that level? Yet I'm in the wrong for insinuating since you don't raid, that your opinion regarding raiding and raiders is completely invalid? You were are the one who keeps constantly expressing that people "don't think about how it effects the player-base," and acting as if people don't know how the average or even how bad players think because we're on a higher level. Casual content is some big mystery, but raiding isn't?

Stop being a hypocrite.

Personally, I missed the opportunity to try Gordias at release...but didn't the devs admit themselves that they overtuned it? So logically, they would be cautious about their difficulty. My stance is less about 'bad casuals need to get better' and more about the player gap needs to get smaller without the devs dumbing down the combat any more than it already is.

Gordias was overtuned, and they went on the record to say they messed up. In fact, I think they apologized over it.