Why the hate with endgame fights?

[Squintina]

there is no difficulty curve in this game. at expert level you can just ignore so much of it. yojimbo in kugane castle. you can literally stand there go make a coffee while you let daigoro get ALL THE GOLD. and you still will NOT die. It's essentially impossible to fail that mechanic.

I don't know about that, that seems to be an exaggeration.

While I will agree that the increase to savage might be way too much compared to normal, the idea that somehow Extreme is the same difficulty as Tam Tara is just ludicrous. Maybe you're that good that you feel that way, but not everyone is you. Why just yesterday I watched (I wasn't in there, I was literally watching someone else play) a group wipe multiple times on Limitless Blue (Hard, not even Extreme) because of not tanking properly, not damaging properly, and not dodging properly. Had that group done Extreme, there is no way it would have eventually be beaten, but I'm pretty sure any of them could handle Tam Tara.

I'll agree that the difficulty jumps for savage, but let's not go crazy and pretend like it's all the same until then.

Back on topic, The hate is just because some people are just not as good. Some of those people will welcome it and try to get better, others won't and will ask for nerfs and call people who disagree with them elitist and act like you need to treat the game "like a job" to get to be good (No you don't. You might need that to be "world first" good, but not just "good" in general).

Some people also blame the toxic community (which is only a small % of the community, it just feels like it's more for those who are unfortunate enough to encounter it because of how bad it feels), but if that's the case then it wouldn't just be about endgame. I've seen people be jerks in low level content, even as low as guildhests (My first ever received "git gud" was when I was trying to tank in a guildhest. ). Jerks will be jerks whenever they can.

[Sacred_Nym]

I'll agree that the difficulty jumps for savage, but let's not go crazy and pretend like it's all the same until then.

The big gap is between Normal and Extreme though. Hell, given this past tier extreme and savage may well be the same thing given how easy O1S is. But if you take a DF random from expert roulette and drop him in Laksmi or O1S he will wipe the group. Without doubt. Because he doesn't have a clue what he's doing and the difficulty of casual content has basically said that that's okay.