Why the hate with endgame fights?

[VanilleFang]

To be frank? People are entitled and lazy. There's really not much else to it. They don't want to do the work but they want what ever doing the work would earn them.

[Ayer2015]

To be frank? People are entitled and lazy. There's really not much else to it. They don't want to do the work but they want what ever doing the work would earn them.

Not sure about you, but I play games for fun, not work. I can go out and get paid for work.

[ViolaCrossfire]

Not sure about you, but I play games for fun, not work. I can go out and get paid for work.

[Ayer2015]

I don't need a trophy to play in the first place. The past month I've been running shit with friends because I was enjoying myself. Got nothing in game for it worth any value to myself.

[KaivaC]

Not sure about you, but I play games for fun, not work. I can go out and get paid for work.

So....basically, you're pretty much fine with going through the whole game Netflixing while hardly paying attention? Are you the type that dislikes being challenged in optional content? Besides, there's only so much the devs can add every 3-4 months when the casual base just eats through everything in just a few days. Part of that is on the devs for making things easy like that, part of that is on the player base for not going in moderation.

[Ayer2015]

So....basically, you're pretty much fine with going through the whole game Netflixing while hardly paying attention? Are you the type that dislikes being challenged in optional content? Besides, there's only so much the devs can add every 3-4 months when the casual base just eats through everything in just a few days. Part of that is on the devs for making things easy like that, part of that is on the player base for not going in moderation.

Sure there is... long term goals. Something this game lacks outside relic weapons. Hopefully Eureka comes through and remedies this.
You don't need content with a million mechanics for it to be fun either. That's just what our devs choose to keep churning out.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Not sure about you, but I play games for fun, not work. I can go out and get paid for work.

I had more fun last night learning how to heal Exdeath (Savage) than I have had in weeks doing "Expert" dungeons. Why? The former required my brain.

That's the issue with anecdotes. Your definition of fun isn't universal. Now I wouldn't take near the amount of umbrage I do if people who didn't want to put forth an effort stayed out of harder content. Instead, they whine everything is too hard and needs nerfs. So now what I enjoy gets watered down because you (generalizing) can't be bothered to do more than press a handful of buttons.

[Ayer2015]

I had more fun last night learning how to heal Exdeath (Savage) than I have had in weeks doing "Expert" dungeons. Why? The former required my brain.

That's the issue with anecdotes. Your definition of fun isn't universal. Now I wouldn't take near the amount of umbrage I do if people who didn't want to put forth an effort stayed out of harder content. Instead, they whine everything is too hard and needs nerfs. So now what I enjoy gets watered down because you (generalizing) can't be bothered to do more than press a handful of buttons.

You clearly didn't read the post directly prior to the one you quoted. I at no point call for nerfs to content difficulty. I've been asking for hard 4 man content for a long time. Content should not feel like work however.... games should be fun

[Paladinleeds]

You clearly didn't read the post directly prior to the one you quoted. I at no point call for nerfs to content difficulty. I've been asking for hard 4 man content for a long time. Content should not feel like work however.... games should be fun

Here's the thing, for me, I want to be challenged. I want to be pushed forward. It's why I'm pushing to get back into my static. It's why I want any relationship to be intellectually stimulating for me. For me, I want to be challenged. The idea of being challenged, that is fun to me.