Why the hate with endgame fights?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

i find people who say git gud never really faced difficult content in the first place; it was easy for them, and they can't get how it isn't easy for everyone else.

Can I chime in on this?

Riyah, I take a lot of pride in how good I am at this game (and yet I'm aware there are others who are "better") because of how hard I've worked behind the scenes. Or even right there in front of others. When I wanted to clear Turn 5 (Second Coil was current by then), and absolutely no one in my FC was interested in it, I went out to find others who also wanted to do it. And I dragged them in there so many times for so many tries and failures that when we did clear it, they were thanking me for teaching them. I wasn't even aware that through repeated attempts with a group that became dear friends to me, I was actually teaching them what I wanted to learn and clear so badly.

Healing? I told my FC mates to put me through "hell runs" while I was leveling. Make it as difficult as possible for me without intentionally trying to wipe. As a result, I really just have no sense of panic as a healer anymore (and this actually ISN'T always a good thing). In the heat of even the worst moments, I can maintain a calm and still keep healing so long as I'm able.

As for PvP, setting my reckless and sometimes overly-excitable nature aside, I do a lot of what I do to challenge my own limits. Why was I the moron running AT the cannons in Rival Wings on day 1? So that I could learn their firing speed and start dodging cannon fire. Why did I stand my ground and fight the jobs/players people said I couldn't beat? So that I could learn to beat them. Sometimes it was just being stubborn in the face of adversity, but it made me tenacious and capable of standing toe to toe with them.

I said that to illustrate that it's not that some of us see things as being easy overall, but that when we were faced with something difficult, we didn't shy away from it or limit ourselves by simply saying it was difficult and that was it. We pushed. We learned. We tried and failed. And failed. And failed. Then we finally got it. And once you've got it, you're good. And that's really just it. Look at the "Ultimate" raiders. What do they do? They try repeatedly, and fail repeatedly. Learning, refining, pushing, til they get it. THAT is the truth of high level anything. Sure, some people are just good and don't have to try as hard, but everybody works. Everybody has to. Success is that defining line between whether you learned and kept trying, or whether you gave up and accepted you couldn't do it.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

i find people who say git gud never really faced difficult content in the first place; it was easy for them, and they can't get how it isn't easy for everyone else. When you actually have hard content, you're too worried with getting it done rather than obsessing over others, and you know how frustrating it is for you, so the last thing you want to do is force others to do it. It took all my focus and concentration to heal 3.0 pvp, for example; wtf would i rage about others not being good at it, when it was so frustrating and wearying? Its people who go in, and ace it, and then ace it so much they can farm the "hard" content nonstop for hours, that always say git gud, but that doesn't seem hard to me.

It wasn't always "easy" for us. Good raiders are not born with innate skill. Once upon a time, we were all the ones getting told "git gud" for our silly fuck ups. The difference is instead of complaining, we actually got good. So when someone sneaks into a farm party they have no business being in, people get frustrated. You act like raiders have no patience yet many do. What drives many of us nuts is when we attempt to explain something or straight up label our PFs with "weekly clears please know all mechanics." We get chastised as being "elitists." I like to think myself a decent player. Despite getting to third phase on DRK in Shinryu, I was still joining first phase learning parties. You know why? Because I wanted more experience in a role I don't normally play. So in your hypothetical example, why couldn't that person who still finds the content hard, keep hopping into learning parties?

Everyone can "git gud." All it takes is effort and a willingness to improve.

[Dualgunner]

You find nothing but what you want to find, Riyah. I don't say git gud because things are easy for me: I say git gud because even a loser like me can struggle with and learn a fight and conquer it.

[jameseoakes]

You find nothing but what you want to find, Riyah. I don't say git gud because things are easy for me: I say git gud because even a loser like me can struggle with and learn a fight and conquer it.

Why do people even say get good like that?

[Bongaboi]

Why do people even say get good like that?

d.va. That's the reason.

[VanilleFang]

Why do people even say get good like that?

I know I'm late but...

Know Your Meme

[Nora_of_Mira]

As someone that "converted" from casual content to "extreme-primal-addict/savagePUG" over the course of SB, I wish I could know why people give up so easily. I've become addicted to the higher difficulty despite the time consuming learning curve. I know o1s and o2s are highly regarded as "the easiest savage ever" but it really worked as confidence boost and I've been farming shinryu ex for that doggo ever since. Something happened in 4.0-4.2 that made me realize just how boring the normal content is, it's simply not rewarding at all to me anymore.

With 4.2 on the horizon, I'm so hyped to smash my face against the new ex Primal, grab that weapon, and smash my face against that god**** train.

[Dualgunner]

Why do people even say get good like that?

[Deceptus]

I have yet to hear anyone apposed to content they're not forced to do.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I have yet to hear anyone apposed to content they're not forced to do.

A couple people in my FC complained about the Ultimate Coil being gated behind O4S. Or about NeoExdeath being in Savage and not normal. Or about mounts not being a drop in normal primals, etc. complain to complain, to complain.