I've Lost Everything

[Falling]

Next time I'm hit by a car, having my hip shattered, ribs cracked, and have so much cranial swelling the doctors aren't sure if I'm going to be permanently brain damage, I'll make sure and pop out of my medically induced coma long enough to spend money I can't afford on a fake house that should not be taken away from me in the first place. Thanks for the kind reminder.

If you think you have rights to your "fake house" till the end of time because you used to play the game, you never read the ToS. Nor any ToS in virtually every MMO. Players do not own anything virtual or otherwise. Its all forever the property of SE.

One thing you need to understand is the high demand for that limited resource you falsely claim rights to. In a video game no less, where most games online interactions dont last past a few years. Option A is to withhold that plot for some player that abandoned it - remember, all SE seen is you just stopped playing. Option B is to free up the plot so another paying subscriber can enjoy the same content you were when you played. Though it sucks you were not playing due to those circumstances, the circumstances doesnt change the logic in the slightest.

By the way, "next time?" Jesus, is that your usual friday night out? I would suggest you look both ways before crossing.

[Solarra]

That was a bit sharp Falling. I don't think the cause of the OP's accident should be under discussion here, it's off-topic and not really any of our business, is it?

The main issue he brings up is the contents of the house, not the house itself.
The time limit on picking up your furniture is ludicrous in my opinion. I know some people just go to the Market Board when they want to decorate their house but others have stuff with sentimental value, trophies from primals etc.
Cash shop items also disappear. I've spent a lot of cash on both my house and our fc house over the years and the idea that stuff could just disappear if I take a break makes me question the wisdom of that.
The OP lost his wedding cake, sure he can go back to the cash shop and buy another Eternal Bond ceremony, but it won't be the same and I don't think he should have to.

[Rymm]

If you think you have rights to your "fake house" till the end of time because you used to play the game, you never read the ToS. Nor any ToS in virtually every MMO. Players do not own anything virtual or otherwise. Its all forever the property of SE.

Falling, I'm a long-time proponent of the demo timer, and even I think you are carrying things too far. The OP is bummed he lost his house (seriously, who wouldn't be?) but he never argued that he shouldn't have and he was actually very understanding about that part, which you would have seen had you bothered to read any of his posts.

Your comment is as unnecessary as it was tactless. What the OP is more upset about, and I can actually get behind him on this one, is that he lost all of his stuff after the 35 day timer on gil/item hold ran out. I really can't support the item timer the way I do the demo timer- the house is already freed up for other people, so there is no reason not to hold peoples' things for a longer (or indefinite) period of time. It's not blocking anyone's access to any content the way holding a house while not being subbed does.

[MizArai]

If you think you have rights to your "fake house" till the end of time because you used to play the game, you never read the ToS. Nor any ToS in virtually every MMO. Players do not own anything virtual or otherwise. Its all forever the property of SE.

golf clap Way to find the one post where he's being sarcastic because someone else was being a jerk. OP while saddened about losing his house, understood why it happened and wasn't surprised when he came back to no house.

He was upset about losing the gil and the items he would normally have received from the auto demolition. Also, when housing was released, Yoshida stated they would not take houses away from people. That changed because SE needed to do something to help with the awful housing situation.

There are many games out there where you can walk away from it for years and come back to your house. Unfortunately housing in FFXIV is such a finite resource that isn't an option. While adding more wards helps some, they really need to switch to a system with instanced housing (where people would no longer need to lose their house or their stuff if they have to take an extended break, like how apartments work).

[LastFireAce]

Nothing we can do :/

[Falling]

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A game bringing revenue to the tune of several million dollars a month in subscriptions alone has probably went over the pros and cons of that 35 day timer - I severely doubt that the 35 day timer for those items are not nearly as baseless as many claim it is.

As far as my reply to the OP goes, Its not tactless - none of us need to read such descriptions in here in an effort to tug our sympathy - whether it is true or not. This thread was posted originally looking for a solution to their loss and i respect that - but several people have openly stepped forward to help, which the OP recognizes, turns down, and now posts sarcastic garbage such as what i responded to? This was a pretty genuine thread to start and turned into one nasty looking sympathy plea.

I read the thread before posting - including the meaning behind those words.

[Besame]

Fact 1: OP lost his house and understands why, not angry, just disappointed. Fact 2: (The real BS) OP also lost all "housing" items, receiving no compensation, is very unhappy about this practice and so comes here to talk to others and voice his story and concerns. Fact 3: We all know why they instituted this process, to force you to keep paying every month no matter what. A "use it or lose it" all policy. I think it's a BS way to do business but it's not my game, I just choose to play it. I have been playing about 2 yrs now and if I didn't have a house yet due to none available, I would of moved on. If I ever have to quit for a while and unable to play, I will already know that all my housing stuff is gone so I will play something else and never use a SE product again. As I stated in another post. There are other games out there that don't take everything should your personal circumstance change for a while which are quite satisfactory in comparison to this one.

[Falling]

I think your "Fact 3" there makes me question if you know what a fact is.

What you think SE's intentions are for those guidelines arent exactly hidden based off that misrepresented Q/A in your signature. Those wards are intentionally different from instanced housing - we can so much as build virtual communities here. We can get that "hey neighbor" feeling. Not something we can do in instanced housing. It doesnt work in inactive housing though, no one wants to live in a ward looking like detroit - viod of all life and empty structures. Demo timer addresses that.

While you are correct SE said one thing and did another, we do NOT know if the reasoning they chose to do so is to get more subscriptions - it could even be lifed if the housing supply satisfies most of the demand. It could be many reasons the demo timers are here - some are for positive experiences.

[Besame]

I think your "Fact 3" there makes me question if you know what a fact is.

What you think SE's intentions are for those guidelines arent exactly hidden based off that misrepresented Q/A in your signature. Those wards are intentionally different from instanced housing - we can so much as build virtual communities here. We can get that "hey neighbor" feeling. Not something we can do in instanced housing. It doesnt work in inactive housing though, no one wants to live in a ward looking like detroit - viod of all life and empty structures. Demo timer addresses that.

I suggest you to wake up and smell the coffee (alone in filled ward). I do understand in their current design why houses are demolished. I do not excuse the reasoning for housing items going bye-bye also. Fail housing system is fail and needs revamped.

[Elamys]

It doesnt work in inactive housing though, no one wants to live in a ward looking like detroit - viod of all life and empty structures. Demo timer addresses that.

You mean like Mist ward 2 subdivision on Balmung? My ward? The one where I've only seen my neighbors a grand total of three times in the six months I've owned the house? The one with the completely empty, locked mansion behind me, or the small on the other half of the neighborhood that only has an aetheryte shard? Or, for an example of a lively ward, we can look at the mansion next to my FC lead's apartment building, with its gardens full of dead thavnairian onions.

The demo timer has its place, but let's not pretend it should be necessary or that the ward system is good. The ward system is garbage. It always has been. I don't see my neighbors. Ever. And most of the posters on here have that same experience. The wards are dead.

I don't like the demo timer. I understand why it's there, but I think it punishes people (like OP) who, for whatever reason, had to stop playing. Other games do not have this problem.

And even with the ward system, why can't the NPC hang onto the items indefinitely? I imagine "because the servers" - somehow, the second most popular MMO on the market has servers that can't handle what a dress up game I play on my mobile phone can.