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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    It was funny because it was fairly stupid (although I know fear makes you do stupid things) and largely because such a death was wasted on such a boring character that never seemed to be as close to the WoL as the cutscene made out.

    By stupid, I mean that the lance would never of hit the WoL if they just kept running. The only reason they even stood in it's path was because Harchefant called out to them which made them stop, forcing him to take up shield.
    Ah okay that actually is more reasonable. The situation being completely avoidable but happening for Big Drama. I can see that point of view, like a "are you serious right now?" kind of thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    It was funny because it was fairly stupid (although I know fear makes you do stupid things) and largely because such a death was wasted on such a boring character that never seemed to be as close to the WoL as the cutscene made out.

    By stupid, I mean that the lance would never of hit the WoL if they just kept running. The only reason they even stood in it's path was because Harchefant called out to them which made them stop, forcing him to take up shield.
    Wrong, running would not have stopped the spear from hitting the Wol. Hitting a moving target with a spear,bow and arrow, is the same hitting with a bullet. You aim just ahead of the target and let the projecticle fly by the time it reaches where you aimed your target will be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Wrong, running would not have stopped the spear from hitting the Wol. Hitting a moving target with a spear,bow and arrow, is the same hitting with a bullet. You aim just ahead of the target and let the projecticle fly by the time it reaches where you aimed your target will be there.
    You may want to watch the cutscene again. If the WoL kept on running, it would of missed.
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    The entire cast of Harry Potter and the Scholasticate's Stone, including Inspector Briarden. I mean, I get you want to do a homage to them via the Scholasticate quest, but good lord. And Briarden was the most annoying character in Hildebrand quests, why do we need more of him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    The entire cast of Harry Potter and the Scholasticate's Stone, including Inspector Briarden. I mean, I get you want to do a homage to them via the Scholasticate quest, but good lord. And Briarden was the most annoying character in Hildebrand quests, why do we need more of him?
    Becouse people like me actually like him lol
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    Probably gonna get alot of hate for this one, but I have to say Hauchefant. My reason, more so than the fact he was such a bland and boring character, is for the hype around him when he was just so dull. I didn't even realise people liked him so damn much until I finished his death cutscene and someone was waiting outside handing out items to 'console' the people who just witnessed it, and people /crying and speaking of their irl tears that he's gone... When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.
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    Last edited by Settiesama; 01-21-2018 at 05:47 AM.

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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    Probably gonna get alot of hate for this one, but I have to say Hauchefant. My reason, more so than the fact he was such a bland and boring character, is for the hype around him when he was just so dull. I didn't even realise people liked him so damn much until I finished his death cutscene and someone was waiting outside handing out items to 'console' the people who just witnessed it, and people /crying and speaking of their irl tears that he's gone... When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.
    I didn't like him, either! I barely noticed him before then, and yeah I found the Zephirin scene funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.



    Kind of a weird response to someone dying but you do you. I saw that same person and they gave me tea I think which was I thought a nice thought for the more invested people doing the story if a tad melodramatic
    It's pixels. People laugh at violence being done to pixels all the time. Most people can distinguish between the two.

    I'll agree on Godbert in that specific context; I'm not a fan of Nanamo, at all, in fact I can't stand her, and he talked her out of being stupid. Most of the time it would seem businessmen in FFXIV are given the usual wicked role game devs tend to grant them, either due to their own silly prejudices or when pandering to their audiences', but it was the first time he ever spoke any sense, AFAIC.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 01-21-2018 at 05:59 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Yotsuyu:



    She competes with Algus/Argath of FFT for the title of my most hated character in Final Fantasy. I was genuinely angry when she was revealed to have survived the events at Doma Castle and am further enraged that she seems to be getting a redemption arc in 4.2.
    I sincerely hope that I at least get the choice to not forgive her in dialogue even if it has no bearing on the rest of the story.

    I'm in the loving Hildy and Godbert camp myself but I can respect that their style isn't for everyone.
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    Laurentius Daye


    I hated him, and by proxy the Derplander, from the moment we let him walk away in the Shroud. Just let him walk away after what he did! As you could imagine, my seething hatred grew in 2.X and went nuclear somewhere... further along the way.


    Close runner-up is Yotsuyu. Pending the results 4.2, she may temporarily become my most hated temporarily. But Laurentius... oh my god, Laurentius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    But Laurentius... oh my god, Laurentius.
    Oh yes, Eorzea's chronically-backstabbing Wood Wailer. He switched allegiances so often it's like his coat was turned inside out! Oh how it felt good to beat him up along with the rest of the traitorous Fourth in Halatali during Heavensward, but I still felt cheated I didn't get to do the whole world a favour and actually kill him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.
    Oh, it's not so much I hate him because he sided with the Monetarists period, but more that he didn't say anything to explain himself that made him seem so heartless and uncaring, a character that is constantly touted as being compassionate and caring for the less fortunate. He just came across as just as greedy, power-hungry and arrogant as the rest of the Monetarists. At least Lolorito actually explained why he voted against the bill to let the Domans stay, Godbert stayed silent the whole time (and to add further salt into the Domans' wounds, he was so cowardly he tried to hide his identity under a robe! But the hooded figure is clearly Godbert as an image of that scene on the Lodestone actually showed him in that exact place at the table without the robe, making him complicit in the Monetarists's schemes.).

    I'm sorry, but I just cannot forgive him for this.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 01-21-2018 at 06:05 AM.

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