An NPC you truly hate with passion

[Lauront]

I was actually kind of hoping that he would die, honestly. I feel like it was a major kick in the teeth to lose two characters with depth to them back in Heavensward only for the gimmicky minor characters to emerge largely unscathed. It doesn't help that I have an intense loathing for that awful, awful face that he uses.



If it wasn't for Lyse, Godbert and Hildibrand would be at the top of my list. I really can't stand them or the forced 'humour' surrounding them. Some people like it, though, so as long as it remains far removed from the MSQ's...so be it.

I agree!

Re Briarden, he's about the only person in that quest line I can tolerate.

[Settiesama]

Probably gonna get alot of hate for this one, but I have to say Hauchefant. My reason, more so than the fact he was such a bland and boring character, is for the hype around him when he was just so dull. I didn't even realise people liked him so damn much until I finished his death cutscene and someone was waiting outside handing out items to 'console' the people who just witnessed it, and people /crying and speaking of their irl tears that he's gone... When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.

[StarRosie]

Lolorito and Teledji Adaledji. I am kinda getting sick of the "Monetarists are all evil masterminds!" but they Lalas..."But they are EVIL and VILE!" They still Lalas, I can't take them seriously here. I could punt them across Ul Dah. Actually mod that, any 'evil' NPC that is a lala, I can't take them seriously but the game keeps pushing and insisting we should take them seriously...see the PUG storyline for example.

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I disagree with this.

Godbert clearly has a good heart and clearly WANTS to help people but in the situations you bring up...either his hands are tied or that isn't his fault.

In the case with the Doman Refugees, his silence speaks volumes. He clearly does want to help but he is putting Ul'dah first in his mind. Not money, but Ul'dah itself. We get a glimpse into his reasoning for staying silent during one of the recent patch MSQs where Nanamo goes to ask Godbert for advice. His advice, while harsh and seems cold and uncaring, is sound and thinking of the bigger picture.

Nanamo is constantly wanting to help the refugees of Ala Mhigo and Doma but Godbert brings up the fact that in her attempts to help these refugees, she's ignoring her people. There are poor and sick within Ul'dah's walls that are going on ignored and how do you think they feel seeing so much of Ul'dah's money and resources going to refugees? Godbert was thinking of the greater issue that would arise in the future, while Nanamo was thinking of the issue in front of her in the here and now.

Nanamo's original plan for the Ala Mhigan refugees would likely have caused the Ul'dah citizens to revolt and this was likely on Godbert's mind when it came to the Doman Refugees as well. So this shows us that for the Doman refugees, his silence is deafening. He WANTS to help the Doman refugees but says nothing cause he is sure doing so would tax the citizens of Ul'dah further, possibly sparking a revolt.

As for the beggar in the Gold Saucer, well...how many Casinos do you know that let people stand around begging for money? While I feel bad for the beggar, he is being disruptive to the patrons of the Gold Saucer, so I can understand why security is trying to kick them out. And if we wanna theory craft, who knows, Godbert might have stopped said guards as they were about to throw the beggar out and offered the beggar a job at the Gold Saucer.

The man trying to sell his son to pay off his debt, has nothing to do with Godbert so I don't know why you are trying to pin that on him. That is the fault of that man running up a debt and being enough of a monster to attempt selling his own son off to pay it but that has nothing to do with Godbert, he isn't forcing that man to sell his son, that man is doing it of his own accord.

Don't get me wrong, Godbert has some derp to him but overall, when he appears in the MSQ, his motivations and overall personality remain consistent. It's in the Hildy quests when he turns into a living meme. (A meme whom I still think is consistent but his consistentcy is reeeaaaalllly being bent a bit.)

A small addition. I think one of the consistent issues with the monetarists is that in the grand scheme of things (Save for Teledji who was just evil.) they are rather neutral. But the game/story does (In my opinion.) a poor job of fully showing us how strained Ul'dah is, they say it is, they say it a lot. But they never fully show it and this makes it harder to see the monetarists as anything but uncaring and cruel. Yes, Lolorito loves his money but it is clear he puts part of his profits back into Ul'dah, the same can be said for Godbert. But overall...this isn't shown much and the suffering of Ul'dah isn't shown much. They really need to give more SHOW not TELL when it comes to Ul'dah's citizens.

[SilverObi]

Godbert Manderville. Seriously. I can't stand the idiot.

And I still haven't forgiven him for siding with the rest of the Monetarists to prevent the Doman Refugees from settling in Ul'dah. He didn't say a [i]damn word, he kept stubbornly silent and walked out with the rest of them!

It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.

When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.

Kind of a weird response to someone dying but you do you. I saw that same person and they gave me tea I think which was I thought a nice thought for the more invested people doing the story if a tad melodramatic

[Darrcyphfeid]

Laurentius Daye


I hated him, and by proxy the Derplander, from the moment we let him walk away in the Shroud. Just let him walk away after what he did! As you could imagine, my seething hatred grew in 2.X and went nuclear somewhere... further along the way.


Close runner-up is Yotsuyu. Pending the results 4.2, she may temporarily become my most hated temporarily. But Laurentius... oh my god, Laurentius.

[BillyKaplan]

I saw that same person and they gave me tea I think which was I thought a nice thought for the more invested people doing the story if a tad melodramatic

My fc does something like that too, whenever someone clears the Vault, even if on an alt, we have a few of us waiting outside for them with Wind-up Hauchys and hugs at the ready. The one person in our fc who didn't like Haurchefant played 1.0 originally and never bothered to check on things they changed that supposedly fleshed out both the chara and your chara's interaction with him, so he never got to care.

[VanilleFang]

I never liked Tataru. I find her annoying and useless.

[SilverObi]

My fc does something like that too, whenever someone clears the Vault, even if on an alt, we have a few of us waiting outside for them with Wind-up Hauchys and hugs at the ready. The one person in our fc who didn't like Haurchefant played 1.0 originally and never bothered to check on things they changed that supposedly fleshed out both the chara and your chara's interaction with him, so he never got to care.

That's a nice lil thing to do ^^ I was in the same boat to be perfectly honest in the transition from 1.0 to ARR. I didn't play enough of the first to really CARE about the world or what was happening but during the interim (especially after the final cutscene of 1.0) I threw myself into the lore so I could give it a fair shake and it turned out to be very good.

It's always understandable to dislike a character but most oftentimes I hear flimsy reasons for outright hating a character or sometimes just plain innocent ignorance about the character beyond first appearances

[Enkidoh]

But Laurentius... oh my god, Laurentius.

Oh yes, Eorzea's chronically-backstabbing Wood Wailer. He switched allegiances so often it's like his coat was turned inside out! Oh how it felt good to beat him up along with the rest of the traitorous Fourth in Halatali during Heavensward, but I still felt cheated I didn't get to do the whole world a favour and actually kill him.

It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.

Oh, it's not so much I hate him because he sided with the Monetarists period, but more that he didn't say anything to explain himself that made him seem so heartless and uncaring, a character that is constantly touted as being compassionate and caring for the less fortunate. He just came across as just as greedy, power-hungry and arrogant as the rest of the Monetarists. At least Lolorito actually explained why he voted against the bill to let the Domans stay, Godbert stayed silent the whole time (and to add further salt into the Domans' wounds, he was so cowardly he tried to hide his identity under a robe! But the hooded figure is clearly Godbert as an image of that scene on the Lodestone actually showed him in that exact place at the table without the robe, making him complicit in the Monetarists's schemes.).

I'm sorry, but I just cannot forgive him for this.

[Lauront]

Probably gonna get alot of hate for this one, but I have to say Hauchefant. My reason, more so than the fact he was such a bland and boring character, is for the hype around him when he was just so dull. I didn't even realise people liked him so damn much until I finished his death cutscene and someone was waiting outside handing out items to 'console' the people who just witnessed it, and people /crying and speaking of their irl tears that he's gone... When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.

I didn't like him, either! I barely noticed him before then, and yeah I found the Zephirin scene funny.

It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.



Kind of a weird response to someone dying but you do you. I saw that same person and they gave me tea I think which was I thought a nice thought for the more invested people doing the story if a tad melodramatic

It's pixels. People laugh at violence being done to pixels all the time. Most people can distinguish between the two.

I'll agree on Godbert in that specific context; I'm not a fan of Nanamo, at all, in fact I can't stand her, and he talked her out of being stupid. Most of the time it would seem businessmen in FFXIV are given the usual wicked role game devs tend to grant them, either due to their own silly prejudices or when pandering to their audiences', but it was the first time he ever spoke any sense, AFAIC.