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    Kevay Schoneke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    I'd love to play MCH if I could pull off any kind of a reasonable opener/Overheat rotation with my 180-200 latency, but alas...
    Seriously. MCH 3.X was my most favourite class in the game, it was still hard back then, but WF had 15 seconds duration so it was more lenient than now. You had a lot of time to fit in almost all your 0GCDs without resorting to double weave everything and under RF. Now it's delay something for at least half a second and you lose both WF and Overheat buffs. Old WF used to be fun and it was very strong. Now it just feels like a responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexalibur View Post
    Now it just feels like a responsibility.
    I won't say it is a responsabity cause is a game. But of course he deserves a completely rework for a better rotations & dps
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    Are you kidding? Machinist has been one of the strongest DPS classes since its creation.
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    MCH's are actually kinda overpowered.

    Not only do they contribute a large amount to raid DPS, but they tend to be around the 3rd / 4th strongest in terms of personal DPS for fights in the current raid tier.

    Only SUM and SAM consistently perform higher, with BLM and/or MNK pulling ahead in certain encounters. Something you might notice about these classes is that they offer far less than MCH in terms of team support!

    Its not an easy class to perform highly with, and it can be especially punishing if you mess up or lose track of your rotation! So, maybe they could make it less punishing or give it some QoL changes (Although some will be annoyed if it gets 'dumbed down' too much)... but it really doesn't need to be made stronger.
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    Last edited by AxelDH; 01-23-2018 at 02:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AxelDH View Post
    MCH's are actually kinda overpowered.
    Honestly, I'm not sure about that due to some removal in last updated.
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    MCH : 4.2 preliminary note = RIP
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlvinOwl View Post
    MCH : 4.2 preliminary note = RIP
    Good. MCH has been meta since its creation. Let another class have its chance
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Good. MCH has been meta since its creation. Let another class have its chance
    I'm not talking to be better or worst than others. Here is about DPS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlvinOwl View Post
    I'm not talking to be better or worst than others. Here is about DPS!
    Machinist has been one of the strongest classes for raidwide DPS since it was introduced into the game in 3.0. I find it very hard to have sympathy for a class that has deservedly been nerfed when that class has been overpowered for so long during raid patches.

    Now SE should do something about Bard, Dragoon and Ninja.
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