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  1. #1
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    Kuponutz's Avatar
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    Mistress Kupo
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    What Happens To Houses We Have on Same World? Do We Get Our Money Back?

    Hubby has 2 characters on our main World, each one has a house and an FC house. What is going to happen to his house on launch? Will one get demoed and which one? Will it get demoed on patch day, or not until the housing is implemented the week after?

    You realize that you are forcing people to leave their FCs over this, right? He has worked very hard to attain and decorate his houses on both characters, and now you're just going to randomly blow up one of them?

    I hope we get some say in which property gets demolished and you refund ALL EXPENSES ACCRUED IN THAT HOUSE to the owner. Cost of plot when it was purchased, cost of building permit, AND cost of furnishings that can no longer be utilized.

    Absolutely stupid idea. I know why you did it, you're desperate, but right now, my house is the only thing that keeps me paying a sub, literally. Making sure my house doesn't get blown up is the only reason I am paying a sub right now. If you were desperate enough, instead of PUNISHING individuals, you could, oh, I dunno, GET MORE SERVERS! So you might want to take into consideration that personal housing is the only reason some of us still play.

    Anyone who has a house worked REALLY hard to get it. If someone worked really hard on 2 characters, instead of just one, and want to have a similar experience for both characters and have a house for each that should be allowed. In hubby's case he wanted to go old-school FFXI and made one char for his melee/tanks and one for his casters/healers. He has put 4.5 years of hard work, playing almost daily into both of those. HE DESERVES BOTH OF HIS HOUSES.

    Great job devs. You fixed the housing plot problem... But broke the experience for hundreds of people.

    PLEASE DON'T DO THIS!!! Let us keep our houses on 2 characters + FC house.

    Also you said personal houses would be restricted from purchasing for a period of time, but that players could still relocate. So if he wants to just move to another zone can he do that when the additional plots for FC are put in, since it's just a relocation? Or not buy any house anywhere for personal use until it's unlocked later?
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    Last edited by Kuponutz; 01-20-2018 at 03:57 AM.

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    nothing is going to happen based on the information we have now. it only further restricts buying of plots from now on.

    FC house should not count as personal housing when taken into the limit.
    they don't.
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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    From what I've read any player that owns more than one dwelling will not be affected other than they cannot buy additional housing after 4.2. In other words they are grandfathering existing housing owners.
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    Sasha Rochester
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    Didn't they show in the live letter what it looks like when you try to log in with more than two houses? If they have that implemented, the houses are probably not getting grandfathered. You'll probably get your gil back though.
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    That would be a massive relief. I wish they'd put the site up already.
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    Gil back doesn't quite cover the blood sweat and tears you put into buying it and making/buying furnishings to make it look nice. It's easy to put 50 mil into furnishings for a medium, are they gonna give that much back?
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Lamia
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    Your husband did not break any rules. However, there are a lot of people out there who worked just as hard as your husband but are unable to get homes because there just aren't enough to go around. In the end, owning a home (assuming you don't buy from a flipper) comes down to either being lucky enough to spot and reach a reclaimed plot first, or having a good enough internet connect to be able to log on and reach an open plot before anyone else at a ward release. Hard work doesn't enter into the equation beyond getting the minimum required gil. Will opening up the plots held by hoarders completely solve the issue? No. But it will ease the problem and end the hoarding which does nothing but exacerbate the issue for no other reason than the greed/vanity of a small number of players.

    I am all for fully reimbursing hoarders as well as giving them a grace period to select which house to keep, and even transfer ownership to their main. I am all for allowing all alts on a world complete access (without burning tenant slots) to a player's home on that world. But I strongly feel that the fairest thing for the majority of players, would be to reclaim the homes that hoarders are, well, hoarding. As far as I am aware, it is still unclear if this is going to be the case or if hoarders will be grandfathered in.

    As for your last paragraph, from my understanding private owners and FCs alike will be able to relocate as soon as 4.2 goes live, private owners just won't be able to buy entirely new homes. The wording on the whole thing was a bit vague though, so I suppose it's open to interpretation.
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    This was posted in another thread asking him to link it cause i dont use reddit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithia View Post
    Yoshi already stated, you can find it on reddit, that all existing house owners will not have their houses taken away from them and it'll be grandfathered in. So there is no need to worry about having to chose between houses or selling your houses now that you can. Eventually it will balance itself out anyway over a few years.

    To all the ones who feel like its fair to take away another mans property, take a chill pill and accept that those people never did anything wrong, they never broke a rule or a moral ethic code, so its only fair that when the rules get updated they don't have to pay for the game developers their lack of foresight on the matter.
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    Prior to SB we were a very low pop server, there were always plots available. The problem with transferring to his main is that he doesn't have a main. He uses a diff char based on what jobs are needed. What SE is doing is looking those players square in the face and saying "I know WE screwed up with housing, but we're going to punish YOU for our mistake." Our plots are indeed full now, but he's had these houses for a long time. People jumped ship to our server and now SE is saying we have to relinquish our houses for them too...
    I really don't consider it hoarding when he plays each character daily and spends time and money working on each house. There are hoarders out there with 5+ houses, that's ridiculous. I don't think 2 is terrible.
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    Last edited by Kuponutz; 01-20-2018 at 03:59 AM.

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    Yes i know Mistress im on Coeurl with you,, I have 3 houses as many know two 70 beaten sb working my 3rd thru still..we will have to wai...Trust me ive beating this horse into the ground to the point of people making alts onthe server just to send me tells telling how horrable i am for owning more then one house lol

    Im hopein the guy i quoted will post a link to where it says we wont lose what we all ready own
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