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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    No rules have been broken, but you are still a bad person for doing it. You've exploited a system's flaws for personal gain at the expense of others. Is it the fault of the system, or the fault of the exploiters? Yes, to both.
    They...are bad person because they purchased something in a videogame? Wow. This is some statement right here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    They...are bad person because they purchased something in a videogame? Wow. This is some statement right here.
    Oh it's in season to vilify people with multiples at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    They...are bad person because they purchased something in a videogame? Wow. This is some statement right here.
    Well taking extras of something when you know that there are people going without any at all doesn't put them on par with murderers or child abusers but it certainly doesn't make them a "nice person" either. And if you play the "it's just a videogame" card, remember that it cuts both ways- why does it matter if SE reclaims houses from hoarders because "it's just a videogame" and "they're just virtual items" so who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    Well taking extras of something when you know that there are people going without any at all doesn't put them on par with murderers or child abusers but it certainly doesn't make them a "nice person" either. And if you play the "it's just a videogame" card, remember that it cuts both ways- why does it matter if SE reclaims houses from hoarders because "it's just a videogame" and "they're just virtual items" so who cares?
    I didn't play any 'card' as you called it. I just think that calling them " bad people" for buying two virtual houses might be a tiny bit exaggerated But to each their own I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    but it certainly doesn't make them a "nice person" either.
    It doesn't have any reflection on them as a person whatsoever. All it does is make it easier for people to absolve themselves of guilt for hating/envying others. "Oh they're bad people anyway, it's okay to take things away from them" even though it won't fix anything.

    If you step back and read enough posts, it becomes pretty clear that certain people don't care nearly as much about making Square fix the problem as they do about punishing the people they're convinced have slighted them. Whether that's because deep down they know Square can't/won't ever fix this mess or because it's just easier to elicit a response from individuals vs a company is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    It doesn't have any reflection on them as a person whatsoever.
    Oh, it very much does - Just about every action you take reflects back to you as a person in one way or the other. One's personality leads to one's actions after all, that's the reason why not everyone acts the exact same way in the same situations. The issue when making conclusions the other way around is that there can be multiple personalities behind one and the same action. I might be making this comment to belittle you, to educate you, to try and get my opinion accepted, to pass the time trolling or a lot of other reasons and each reason says something different about me as a person. Finding out which it truly is, that's the hard part, unless I'm telling you outright.

    Personally, I also think that it would be far better to advocate a real solution, but frankly, that's been done for years now already and SE hasn't budged. More wards and a bandaid restriction? Come on. There should have long since been an instanced area in each district with a plot to buy, shape and upgrade as desired, but instead we got a carbon copy of FC rooms.
    Talking of apartments - Every single FC house no matter the size can hold up to 512 rooms. Apartment buildings only 100. It's not just a carbon copy, it's a shabby carbon copy whose total capacity per server amounts to little more than 19 FC houses as of 4.1. Much limitations, such wow.

    I have sympathy with everyone who has no faith whatsoever that SE is ever going to fix the mess that is this housing system. It's been terribly mismanaged from start to finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I guess that depends on your world-view.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Oh, it very much does - Just about every action you take reflects back to you as a person in one way or the other.
    Can we at least agree that there are varying levels of significance? That maybe the act of buying 3 or 29 houses, without gloating or belitting or even interacting with would-be buyers in any way, is in itself insignificant? ...No? Okay. Carry on then.


    Being honest, I'll be mildly irritated until 100% of all blame and outrage rests at Square's feet. It's entirely their fault, and XIV housing is an infinitely copyable digital good. I straight-up refuse to believe that they can't provide enough housing. But if that's true - if they truly can't afford to properly support their players' needs despite the monthly fee and ridiculous additional income via Mog Station/SE Store - maybe they just shouldn't be trying to run and maintain an MMO to begin with. Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    Well taking extras of something when you know that there are people going without any at all doesn't put them on par with murderers or child abusers but it certainly doesn't make them a "nice person" either. And if you play the "it's just a videogame" card, remember that it cuts both ways- why does it matter if SE reclaims houses from hoarders because "it's just a videogame" and "they're just virtual items" so who cares?
    Anyone on my server who wanted a house had a house including FCs.. i bought my 3 houses wile 200+ say empty for a year plus..heck i bought 12+ other people there homes as gifts to and there was still 200+ empty houses on my server..It wasnt untill people were handed a free ride they started complaing..

    Anyone up till free transfers if they truly wanted a house could of had one by transfering...If you dont have a house and were here before free transfers stop crying you didn't do everything within your power to get a house.I have no sympthy for anyone who didnt do every thing could to get a house.So now you wanna punish people who sat and stared at 100's of empty lots lol

    Now the new thing seems to be whoa what about new players they cant own mroe then one..well what about the palayers who have been paying there subs for years and playing the game who raised differnt charcters running the msq beating the game multi times, they should suffer cause of new ppl that might stay lol
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 01-25-2018 at 03:57 AM.