4.2 Housing Update

**worldofneil** · 01-24-2018 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by Besame

The only people that abused housing are the ones that buy and flip for huge profits.

Originally Posted by Besame

SE did allow multiples per account after all so to me, one house per alt was not abuse.

Agreed, the system was setup so players could buy 1 personal character and 1 FC house per character. Not abuse, just how the system was designed.

Originally Posted by Besame

The multiple plot owners should be given "X" amount of time to sell/demolish/give away, whatever, any more than 1 plot per main

Woah there! You just said they did nothing wrong. Why are you trying to punish them now? Because they have something you'll now never be able to get? (multiple houses).

Also sell/giveaway won't really be options with 4.2 either. There is no official sell function and I can't see many people wanting to "buy" a plot if they can't have some guarantee that they'll get it with the new random timer.

Same for giveaway, no guarantee that the person you're giving it to will be able to get it. That only leaves demolish and literally no incentive for anyone to do that.

Originally Posted by Besame

Now that housing has become such an issue SE needs to step up and deal with it.

Well going forward people will only be able to buy 1 personal house etc.

Originally Posted by Besame

I could of bought a house on my alt but I chose not to.

Okay. The option was there though.

Originally Posted by Besame

There is something to be said for not being a glutton and sharing with others.

You just said at the start of your post "SE did allow multiples per account after all so to me, one house per alt was not abuse", but anyone that actually did that is a glutton?

**Besame** · 01-24-2018 03:59 AM

Gluttony is not deliberate abuse, it's a behavior issue. There is a distinction between a behavior and intended millions of gained gil for profit abuse. Fortunately, I don't have this behavior. What I am stating is: if SE continues to make wards without standards for purchase, eg., 1 per acct/main with alts receiving all privileges, this problem will continue. If people can abuse OR work around the system they will find a way unless SE places a total stop gap on purchasing any way but one. In any case, time will tell after 4.2. I won't hold my breath that anything I have read from them so far will come to fruition, after all, Read "A:" in my comment. Their word means nothing until the fat lady sings.

**Zigabar** · 01-24-2018 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Besame

In any case, time will tell after 4.2. I won't hold my breath that anything I have read from them so far will come to fruition, after all, Read "A." in my comment. Their word means nothing until the fat lady sings.

While I'm happy for the grandfathering being clarified, for my own gluttonous reasons, I do agree with you on taking their current stance at face value. I, personally, have already taken action to ensure that if they eventually change their mind, on keeping players with multiple houses grandfathered in, that I will not be losing my 2nd FC. Your signature is a prime example of them being capable of changing their minds along with my personal experience of losing grandfather status on other products/services.

**worldofneil** · 01-24-2018 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Zigabar

Your signature is a prime example of them being capable of changing their minds along with my personal experience of losing grandfather status on other products/services.

Personally I always think that's it's unfair to hold to them what they wrote back in that live letter. That was said over a month before they even released housing and two years before they actually bought in reclamation of inactive housing.

I'm sure at the time they said that they meant it, but 2 years later it seems that wasn't possible any more (and it probably didn't help that a lot of the community were actually demanding that they added in demolition because they didn't like all the unused houses sat around).

**Zigabar** · 01-24-2018 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by worldofneil

Personally I always think that's it's unfair to hold to them what they wrote back in that live letter. That was said over a month before they even released housing and two years before they actually bought in reclamation of inactive housing.

I'm sure at the time they said that they meant it, but 2 years later it seems that wasn't possible any more (and it probably didn't help that a lot of the community were actually demanding that they added in demolition because they didn't like all the unused houses sat around).

Oh, I agree that we should not hold them to that quote. In fact, I was purposely using that statement as an immediate example of things can and do change. I was not at all saying I agree or disagree with it.

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