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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Technically, people who flip houses were never breaking any rules yet when reports starting flooding in, they were punished. The ToS states they can adjust the rules however they see fit. So...
    Apples to Oranges.. It speciftly sates each character meeting the requirements can purchase a house...were is theres nothing about selling a house.. Your trying to compare some hting that isnt in the rules..to some thing that the rules tell you you Can do point blank...and yes we all know the rules can be change at any time that rule is as old as the internet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    They are doing it right..There not punishing people who didnt break any rules..If they took homes away they would be in fact punishing people for following SE rules as they were at the time.

    Unless if your idea is right is to punish people who did nothing wrong and followed the rules
    Yeah I want to punish them alllllll

    many people with multiple houses has stated that they'd be okay with the full change if they'd get gil from the house back and could share their one personal house with all their alts in that server. I have an alt with no house but would love to share my mains house with that character as well.

    I am against this whole multiple house shit but now it's unfair for all the new house buyers, they only get one house and the rest can keep theirs. I just wish it could be equal and fair for all. At least the house hoarders now won't be able to get squat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    If they took homes away they would be in fact punishing people for following SE rules as they were at the time.
    It's common practice IRL - If I legally acquired a gun today and tomorrow owning guns got outlawed, then I would not be punished for having owned a gun at some point, but I would get punished if I held onto it after the new rule was put in place. For people who have a car, this is second nature - Whenever there's a speed limit sign, the rules of the street change and you can't expect to have your 70 MPH grandfathered in after passing the 20 MPH sign, even though it was perfectly legal to drive that fast before passing it. You either adjust to the new rules or get punished.

    Standard procedure for things like this is to set a date (or in the street case, a physical location) until which people need to adjust to the new rules, i.e. get rid of the items in question or slow down, then punish people if they are found with the items (or excessive speed) after the date (location). IRL, you typically end up paying a fine and have your item in question confiscated.

    Returning the plot price and housing items to the respective owners in full would already be a nice gesture, really.

    But that's a moot point to discuss if the reddit quote is correct - People will get grandfathered in because "circumstances on our end", i.e. dev ineptitude. At least it's working out for someone! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    At least it's working out for someone! :3
    ID sy its working out for both sides..you wont have multi house owners buying any new plots so all the new ones go to homless
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    So if there's a personal housing restriction..... when can I get my house? Do I not need to wake up when servers are up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    So if there's a personal housing restriction..... when can I get my house? Do I not need to wake up when servers are up?
    We'll be adding 6 additional wards, along with their subdivisions, to each housing area (Mist, Goblet, Lavender Beds, Shirogane).

    Plots will be added one week following the release of Patch 4.2.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-Update/page8
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    Here are my questions:

    1) Is it possible to buy a house for an FC that does not have one, if you already own two personals on the same realm?

    2) Can a character who already has their two house limit even be in an FC with housing? This is probably a really stupid question, but...

    3) Finally, if the answer to questions 1&2 is YES, what the hell happens if the FC leader goes inactive and leadership transfers to someone already at their housing cap? Can lead be transferred to someone who is at the cap?

    My apologies if these seem like utterly ridiculous questions, but given how FCs work I do wonder if it is possible to work around the cap if one just patiently inherits a bunch of FCs with housing on the same server. Either this is possible, or SE has set up some way to restrict this, either if it's by limiting membership at all, or limiting inheritance/passing leadership. This is assuming FC leadership even matters. I hope we get more information before the patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticm View Post
    Here are my questions:

    1) Is it possible to buy a house for an FC that does not have one, if you already own two personals on the same realm?

    2) Can a character who already has their two house limit even be in an FC with housing? This is probably a really stupid question, but...

    3) Finally, if the answer to questions 1&2 is YES, what the hell happens if the FC leader goes inactive and leadership transfers to someone already at their housing cap? Can lead be transferred to someone who is at the cap?
    Making assumptions, but 1 & 2 should be yes. The system likely just checks against the requirements set for the type of housing being purchased. The 3rd the dev team would have to answer. One of the big loopholes I can see is passing that leadership and thus house ownership onto anyone else.
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    Mystaria Ausa
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    Ok good to hear they wont punish the multi home owners. I know speaking as a FC leader. I have my FC house, my personal small and I managed to get a mid house all next to each other. My mid house I use for the FC as well as a RP event house. Spent enough sweat, time, blood and gil... to secure all this for the fun of my FC.... wouldve sucked to choose things.

    Bet you right now tho.. the housing market is about to skyrocket before 4.2.

    Cant wait for my chars to be able to access the house anywhere tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticm View Post
    My apologies if these seem like utterly ridiculous questions, but given how FCs work I do wonder if it is possible to work around the cap if one just patiently inherits a bunch of FCs with housing on the same server. Either this is possible, or SE has set up some way to restrict this, either if it's by limiting membership at all, or limiting inheritance/passing leadership. This is assuming FC leadership even matters. I hope we get more information before the patch.
    It sounds like it would take a lot less than that to get 8 FC houses on the same account, and all that matters is the character clicking on the placard and selecting buy.
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