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    Player
    Sairys's Avatar
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    Senu'a Retkha
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    IMO it would probably be a good idea to get rid of the excess houses while you can still control which house you keep, because you know SE will retroactively enforce the housing limit on all accounts eventually. I mean, look what they do with currencies.

    4.2 effectively starts the beginning of the grace period because you know they'll force the issue down the line.
    Realistically yeah, right now people can probably shift their favourite house onto their main with help but glhf if they try when the resell timer goes in.

    Quote Originally Posted by RayneLittlewinkle View Post
    So when housing goes live. People won't be able to purchase a home if they are wanting it for private use? Does anyone know if it will be for ALL plots or maybe only the large?Which a large I can understand, I feel those are made for FC'S On a server like Balmung.. restricting it to FC's only is kind of shitty how in the world is that giving everyone a "fair" chance. -.- Maybe i'm reading it wrong though. I haven't had my coffee yet
    Afaik, you've read it right. The whole thing is set up to prioritise FCs cause not having a house prevents them from accessing stuff such as the submarines coming in this patch.
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    Shima Kyaro
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Definitely a big fan of the restrictions, but I'd be a bigger fan if I knew they were thinking hard about how to address the personal housing conundrum on the back of this. I've felt for a while that neighborhoods should belong to FCs and Apartments should be massively expanded to accommodate players, and I'd happily relinquish my personal house of a few years in favor of a system that granted some permanence like that without the currently-existing and strict limitations of the apartment system. Still, even a temporary restriction is a positive step. My FC's had their house for a few years as well, so for me this is all about not wanting to see ghost town wards bought by players who don't log in and never decorate while FCs are left in the dark due to login roulette.
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Look I get it that it sucks some people might lose some of their houses but you can't deny that SE obviously do not encourage players to have houses on their alts. The game is literally designed so that you can do everything on one character. Having an alt grants little to no advantage to mains. SE do not encourage the playing of alts, you can even have a subscription that pays for just one character per server.

    Just because you are able to do something doesn't mean it was intended by the devs. Housing in this game is riddled with poor planning and the massive oversight of letting alts also have as many houses as a main is one of them. It's about time SE address this.

    I sincerely hope they do not grandfather anyone, because this would mean more players would have access to housing. This would mean more happier players. It would also make more sense and be more fair on the player population as a whole if we all are subjected to identical restrictions.
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The game is literally designed so that you can do everything on one character. Having an alt grants little to no advantage to mains. SE do not encourage the playing of alts, you can even have a subscription that pays for just one character per server.
    I feel you've contradicted yourself there.

    Yes you CAN do everything on one character, but SE also sell a subscription package that allows up to 8 character per world. If that's isn't encouraging the use of additional characters, then why have that option at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    There is a problem with that. How do you compensate for housing items bought in the cash shop? That could get very sticky if SE tried anything without an option to refund the player's money. Even then with how poor the cash shop is with billing and such I still see a real mess.
    You just made me think, what about players that specifically bought jump potion to get the level 50 requirement for personal housing as well. Agree completely it'd be a real mess!
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    You just made me think, what about players that specifically bought jump potion to get the level 50 requirement for personal housing as well. Agree completely it'd be a real mess!
    While I can agree that taking houses from people who spent real money on housing items raises some thorny problems, I would not lump jump potions into the same category. The only solution I see for this is giving all alts on the same world access to the house/fc house you own (something SE should do anyway, imho,) so that you can still use the items you purchased.

    Not to sound cold, but the reason why someone bought a jump are immaterial- they paid to get their char to 50 and nothing else, SE has fulfilled their obligation once that char hits 50. People who bought potions aren't guaranteed a house any more than they are a raid slot with an FC once they jump.
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    Last edited by Rymm; 01-20-2018 at 02:12 AM.

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    Oso Fox
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I started saving for new housing since last year during HW, I saved up 30m specifically for these houses over that time and I don't feel like my entire year of effort, and beyond that, and now all my work can be compensated because people think its unfair I got a plot for my free company and personally? they are adding new stuff, they are most like going to restrict it, but taking away from people who worked hard with the system that was in place? Doesn't seem smart, I have an entire halloween and christmas themed house, I spent so much on, and having to choose between my shirogane style house and that isn't why I saved up all that money and used all that time. Sorry to rant just saying this isn't about people hoarding, I'm not sure why they cant send in staff members in game to look at who is actually hoarding plots or not, yeah it'll take time but it'll really be worth it to use the companys time to see who is cheating the system rather waste peoples time who didn't.
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    D'andi Leonis
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I have 6 alts on Brynhildir, 4 of which have small houses. I would be fine with having to get rid of 3 but only if Houses automatically become shared estates with server alts. Meaning, if I can only have 1 private estate per server per service account then all the characters I posses on that server under the same service account need to have full access to that 1 private estate. That is the only way this would then be fair for everyone.
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    Last edited by Perogwin; 01-20-2018 at 02:23 AM.

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    Mithia Wryght
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Yoshi already stated, you can find it on reddit, that all existing house owners will not have their houses taken away from them and it'll be grandfathered in. So there is no need to worry about having to chose between houses or selling your houses now that you can. Eventually it will balance itself out anyway over a few years.

    To all the ones who feel like its fair to take away another mans property, take a chill pill and accept that those people never did anything wrong, they never broke a rule or a moral ethic code, so its only fair that when the rules get updated they don't have to pay for the game developers their lack of foresight on the matter.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithia View Post
    Yoshi already stated, you can find it on reddit, that all existing house owners will not have their houses taken away from them and it'll be grandfathered in. So there is no need to worry about having to chose between houses or selling your houses now that you can. Eventually it will balance itself out anyway over a few years..
    I would like to see it officially stated but yes I do believe this is and will be the case. The new restrictions will apply to new purchases and will in no way affect the older ones.
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    Sin Bathory
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithia View Post
    Yoshi already stated, you can find it on reddit, that all existing house owners will not have their houses taken away from them and it'll be grandfathered in. So there is no need to worry about having to chose between houses or selling your houses now that you can. Eventually it will balance itself out anyway over a few years.

    To all the ones who feel like its fair to take away another mans property, take a chill pill and accept that those people never did anything wrong, they never broke a rule or a moral ethic code, so its only fair that when the rules get updated they don't have to pay for the game developers their lack of foresight on the matter.
    Any chance you can link us to this please
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