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    Quote Originally Posted by Lissandra View Post
    I would very much like SE to mandate the one personal, one fc house per account to everyone come 4.2.
    Well we'll see, but that slide was only talking about plot purchasing (which is by far the easiest thing for them to do, check at point of purchase if person is eligible or not).

    Reasons I don't think they'll touch existing people:
    • Compensation - We already have inflation issues, do they really want to inject more money into the system? And how much for what? How do you compensate for time/effort? Plot price is easy (100%...), time/effort acquiring furniture not so much.
    • They'd have to build a system/way for players to select which house/fc house to keep or build in something to compensate people when they relinquish (which wouldn't necessarily work for FC as they'd just transfer ownership).
    • Public relations - Although I'm sure the players with multiple houses are in the minority, it still doesn't look good for SE if there's news about taking things away from players who worked hard on them and broke no rules (I'm especially thinking of those people on Mateus!)
    • Storage - How does a player with multiple houses even store all the items that they've acquired? Especially since they added in housing storage which itself is holding even more items. Players would be forced to discard items due to the binded nature of them.

    It just seems to me one heck of a lot less work/effort to just leave it be and overtime they'll naturally come back into the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Well we'll see, but that slide was only talking about plot purchasing (which is by far the easiest thing for them to do, check at point of purchase if person is eligible or not).

    Reasons I don't think they'll touch existing people:


    It just seems to me one heck of a lot less work/effort to just leave it be and overtime they'll naturally come back into the system.
    That the rest of the slide talked about purchasing is what made it really pop out to me that the line about 1 private and 1 fc house specified that it's a limitation on ownership. It has implications such as not being able to join an FC that has a house if you already have one for example.

    And again, it seems to me that literally the first thing that will happen the moment plots fill up again is that people will go straight for those who are outside the, then, current rules.


    EDIT: Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't just make it so if you're outside the 1/1 rule all your houses start ticking for inactivity and won't stop until you bring yourself into line. That seems the simplest way realistically.
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    Indeed, on my main i hold a medium house fully decorated, and on my first alt a mansion which had even more effort put into decorating. So now i have a choice give up the mansion or leave my main character homeless....... That is if i even get to choose

    I sincerely hope so that they wont touch existing house owners and just impliment them for new to buy housing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    Indeed, on my main i hold a medium house fully decorated, and on my first alt a mansion which had even more effort put into decorating. So now i have a choice give up the mansion or leave my main character homeless....... That is if i even get to choose

    I sincerely hope so that they wont touch existing house owners and just impliment them for new to buy housing
    They can't do that without creating 'super users' who are now immune to the rules that the rest of the population are bound to and they can never own multiple houses like those users. It would be a PR nightmare. All they need to do is let alts TP to your main's house and use the facilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackironTarkus View Post
    They can't do that without creating 'super users' who are now immune to the rules that the rest of the population are bound to and they can never own multiple houses like those users. It would be a PR nightmare. All they need to do is let alts TP to your main's house and use the facilities.
    You dont need to create super users, you just put the rules into effect when people buy a house or want to join an fc with an alt. They could leave existing house owners and people in fc's alone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    You dont need to create super users, you just put the rules into effect when people buy a house or want to join an fc with an alt. They could leave existing house owners and people in fc's alone
    Anyone grandfathered in to be immune to the rules that are being implemented is by default some kind of 'super user'. They own multiple houses in a game where the rules now say you can't do that, and noone else will *ever* be able to be like them ever no matter what circumstances. Sounds like a special player to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackironTarkus View Post
    Anyone grandfathered in to be immune to the rules that are being implemented is by default some kind of 'super user'. They own multiple houses in a game where the rules now say you can't do that, and noone else will *ever* be able to be like them ever no matter what circumstances. Sounds like a special player to me.
    Well said before, what if the legally small 4 man fc (no alts) that owns a house suddenly loses a member? That would make it a 3 man fc would they take away the house despite them not being allowed to own one under the rules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackironTarkus View Post
    They can't do that without creating 'super users' who are now immune to the rules that the rest of the population are bound to and they can never own multiple houses like those users. It would be a PR nightmare. All they need to do is let alts TP to your main's house and use the facilities.
    There are already "Super Users" running around. Early in ARR they removed a bug where you could add alts to your friend list, so these "Super Users" can mail items to their alts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    There are already "Super Users" running around. Early in ARR they removed a bug where you could add alts to your friend list, so these "Super Users" can mail items to their alts.
    That's not so much "super" in my opinion. Maybe little less annoying in order to carry items to your alt but there still another ways to do that. So they don't have more possibilities than another players just because they can send 4 mails to alts at once. Having more house it's another story.

    generic ward backdrop to be viewed off of the balcony.
    That would be awesome and I really looking forward to see change like that. Adding a flowerpot that have two places can solve some problems.
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    And the 4 man limitation is a joke, people would just park 4 unused alts in there, and what will they do if one person leaves the fc and there is only 3 left. Take away there house?
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