Thread: 4.2 Housing Update

While I understand why people want it to be retroactive, it just isn't fair for people who got it when it was totally allowed.

Besides, in the long run it won't really matter if some people are grandfathered in. Those people won't be able to buy more houses, so the new wards will be for those who can. There will be more wards over time.

Furthermore if any of those people with multiple houses go away and get demo'd, they'd lose their houses that way and I'm pretty sure (though it's not confirmed, but based on how the system sounds like) that they would end up with the 1 house rule once that happens.

Honestly SE can fix the issue with certain items like flooring/lights/wallpaper etc. I believe it was mentioned (cannot remember where) they were going to make them removable and be able to keep them.

About multiple plot owners being grandfathered in I do not agree with it but there is a way for SE to fix it:

1. Allow all characters on a single account use the same private house.
2. For a 90 day window, allow players to demolish housing and receive full price in return. Send out e-mail and in game notifications to players with multiple houses 45 days out from the 90 window every 5 days informing them to demolish extra housing or run the risk of losing all housing on their account (will still get all items and 100% Gil back if forced).

The change will not please everyone. Also for those who rage quit over this, your a small subset of the user base.

i have houses on 2 alts, bought because the plots were just sitting there and i had extra gil at the time. I have enjoyed decorating them and i do use them as crating locations for my alts to this day. I would relinquish them in a heartbeat if there was a good mechanism to do so, since i do feel bad for those who cannot enjoy housing due to the shortage. Unfortunately there is no mechanism to relinquish a house that is reasonable. If they could just make the same process that manages refunds, and items for demolished houses kick in for relinquished houses you would see folks relinquishing voluntarily. At least I would.

Please remember that some people bought a second house on their alternate main through house flippers and paid a price gouged amount for it (with legitimate gil from hundreds of hours of crafting and grinding). They are the one who would be hurt the most from forced relinquish.

SE, the decision you made is the right one. Please never force relinquish a plot from an active owner.

Originally Posted by Titor

Please remember that some people bought a second house on their alternate main through house flippers and paid a price gouged amount for it (with legitimate gil from hundreds of hours of crafting and grinding). They are the one who would be hurt the most from forced relinquish.

You won't find sympathy for people that bought a house from a flipper here. "What, you put a lot of effort into getting a house??? The only real way to get a house is to win the login lottery at 3am on Tuesday morning patch day."

Originally Posted by Titor

Please remember that some people bought a second house on their alternate main through house flippers and paid a price gouged amount for it (with legitimate gil from hundreds of hours of crafting and grinding). They are the one who would be hurt the most from forced relinquish.

SE, the decision you made is the right one. Please never force relinquish a plot from an active owner.

Dummy, SE doesn't support that flipper shit, if in the future many house owners would have to decide to keep one house SE can only give back the money the base land cost. Buying from flippers is on the buyers if they would one day have to give them up.

Originally Posted by Rymm

As an aside, I really take issue with hoarders constantly throwing around the word "punishment" when talking about taking away their multiples. I've said it before and I'll say it again, being negatively impacted does not equate punishment. Losing those homes would be no more of a "punishment" by SE than they were "punishing" other players by holding them in the first place.

From good old wiki:

A punishment is the imposition of an undesirable or unpleasant outcome upon a group or individual, meted out by an authority—in contexts ranging from child discipline to criminal law—as a response and deterrent to a particular action or behaviour that is deemed undesirable or unacceptable.

Imposition of undesirable outcome - check
meted out by authority - check
response to undesirable behaviour - check

Which part makes it not a punishment?