Thread: 4.2 Housing Update

Honestly I have a single house one small lot, I had it all decorated neatly and creatively I almost never used it. Tonight I realized this and emptied the thing out moved back into my apartment, and posted a greeting similar to this "Yes this house is empty Yes this lot will get released AFTER the 4.2 patch. NO I will not reserve it for anyone best of luck." This is one lot that will not get into the hands of house hoarders, lot flippers or anyone besides someone who genuinely wants a house that does not have one already. I find this whole "but without my empty houses I feel empty" udder nonsense, go to Wildstar if you like housing that much you'll enjoy it much better. Let them squirm, but also know This whole fiasco is on SE not anyone else for not setting clear limits on housing ownership in the first place. Those that abused these lack of restrictions are simply a sad statistic and unnecessary victim pool that in the end that will continue to haunt this games housing system for possibly years....

Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

And it's that whole narrow-minded white knight mentality that I think it's funny you can justify two people owning an entire ward. It's one thing it being 3 or 4 houses, but think back to some of the comments and reasonings why they did it.

My biggest issue with people crying about the Ward 12 pair, is that those same people are completely content to ignore the dozens upon dozens of people that own houses, and do nothing at all with them, and that isn't even counting house flippers.Hate them as much as you want for having obtained something great, while breaking no rules, but you can't ever say that they aren't doing anything with that ward. Every house they have finished decorating has been made open to the public, and they openly encourage people to visit them, to host events in them, and to RP in those houses ( I've spent over 6 hours doing just that with my FC over the last couple evenings. ) They are also frequently editing the decorations, updating and changing things. The ward itself is like a living breathing organism, every week you could go through and find something new or different, and as someone who is actually on the server with that ward(Most the people I see complaining, surprisingly don't have Mateus marked as their realm on here), I can say it would honestly be a tragedy to lose it.

That being said, I feel like they should focus more on addressing issues with house flippers, or people just holding onto houses, but doing literally nothing with them, beyond just running inside once a month to reset the auto demo timer. And before anyone comes at me with the "You have no right to say how people should use their houses", when it is dealing with such a finite resource like this, yes, yes people can say how that finite resource should be used, and people do all the time, like those screaming about multi-home owners. I would much rather see 2 people own an entire ward, and actually do something with it, than see the mass of people owning 1 house, and doing nothing with it.

I think a good balance would be to, at least going forward, put a price on buying houses for alts. Similar to getting retainers, add a higher fee to a person's subscription if they want to own more than one personal home, that way, they are literally helping to pay for the resources it takes to maintain the housing system.

Originally Posted by Sairys

*shrug*

What gets me is they are creating all these new rules and opening new wards... and it still doesn't solve the actual problem.

The only real solution is to make housing instanced. Allow apartments to be converted into houses with yards. Let people pick the size house they want and allow them to upgrade anytime they can afford it.

Allow FCs to use instanced housing so all FCs can have access to a common meeting ground and crafting chambers.

No matter how many rules you make, if there are less houses than players, the system is broken especially since a good chunk of content is locked behind owning a house.

Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

No, you don't. It doesn't matter how much you like or dislike what someone chooses to do with their house, you do NOT get a say in what they do with it. It doesn't matter if the person just wants it for the cheaper teleport or just for a garden plot, or a stable or even just a place to call theirs, you do NOT get a say in what they do with it.

That housing is a scarce commodity is irrelevant to this. No player should ever have a say in what another player does with the things they acquire in the game. The only exception to this is harassment and even then you don't get a say beyond reporting it to the GMs and letting them decide.

Still everyone has the right to make their opinion heard about what they THINK should happen to that housing, and that's what happening here, no one is dictating policy, just making suggestions in more, or less, eloquent ways. it's up to the devs if they agree or not.

So yes, everyone has a right to say what they want, just like you have the right to disagree.

Originally Posted by AriesMouse

My biggest issue with people crying about the Ward 12 pair, is that those same people are completely content to ignore the dozens upon dozens of people that own houses, and do nothing at all with them, and that isn't even counting house flippers.Hate them as much as you want for having obtained something great, while breaking no rules, but you can't ever say that they aren't doing anything with that ward. Every house they have finished decorating has been made open to the public, and they openly encourage people to visit them, to host events in them, and to RP in those houses

I would much rather see 2 people own an entire ward, and actually do something with it, than see the mass of people owning 1 house, and doing nothing with it.

By your logic a person could take everything at a food stall and as long as they eat it all it's okay because everything is used. Whereas a person who takes any amount but chooses to not eat is in the wrong. The other people who wanted food couldn't give a damn whether another person ate it or not, what matters to them is if they get the chance to have any.

It is the same with housing in ff. Most players couldn't give a crap if that pair use all their houses or not. What matters to them is their own chances of getting a house.

Furthermore it cannot be argued that the notorious pair in Mateus are unknowingly depriving many players and fcs of housing. They know exactly what they're doing and how much grief it's causing.

And well SE have made their opinion on this clear. In 4.2 there will be measures to prevent this sort of thing ever happening again unless players buy several accounts. It's only a matter of time before players are forced to let go of excess houses, likely when all characters on one server will have access to the same private home so that no character suddenly becomes completely homeless.