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    QOL suggestions for sch

    just some small ideas for sch
    1. make Miasma and Bio 2 last equal amounts
    2. Put Shadow Flare back on global cool down
    3. make dissipation summon Lilly back when its duration ends

    what do you guys think?
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    People have been begging for that exact change to dissipation since it was added. I think everyone wants that.

    SE instead opted to shave a few seconds off the time it takes to summon.
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    Dissipation is such a weird skill. I understand Scholar is supposed to be the most technical Healer but that ability is so freaking complicated all by itself. It brings a level of difficulty to the Scholar thought process that just seems unnecessary. You have to consider whether you need your fairy actions in the next 20 seconds. You have to consider if you have enough MP to utilize the healing boost. Are your Aetherflow abilities on cool down already? Will you get the full benefit from the Quickened Aetherflow Trait? It's just absurd to have an emergency skill that needs to be preplanned to that extent.
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    I don't understand why you want shadowflare to be on the gcd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    I don't understand why you want shadowflare to be on the gcd
    global cool down. like it was in hw it we should be able to cast it regularly rather than it be a cool down. In all honesty that change never made sense.
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    Are these really QoL changes though? The first suggestion would be a DPS buff, unless you're suggesting they lower the tick potencies on Miasma. Second one would be a flat out buff, unless you're again suggesting to severely lower the potency. (And actually I quite like SF the way it is now, being instant cast is nice to weave in.) And the third one is basically removing any penalty from using Dissipation as a DPS tool, as in the MP costs.

    I have a feeling this is more verging on "buff SCH please" rather than QoL changes. Buffs that we really do not need, except maybe a little look at Selene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    Are these really QoL changes though? The first suggestion would be a DPS buff, unless you're suggesting they lower the tick potencies on Miasma. Second one would be a flat out buff, unless you're again suggesting to severely lower the potency. (And actually I quite like SF the way it is now, being instant cast is nice to weave in.) And the third one is basically removing any penalty from using Dissipation as a DPS tool, as in the MP costs.

    I have a feeling this is more verging on "buff SCH please" rather than QoL changes. Buffs that we really do not need, except maybe a little look at Selene.
    The First suggestion was simply because of how they flow in combat. its annoying for Miasma to last a shorter duration than Bio II. Which is something Summoner got worked out with their dots being evened out. Yes I suppose bumping Miasma up to 30s would be considered a buff. And heaven forbid that any other healer besides whm get a buff.

    Again the third suggestion is because of the synergy that summoner has and its something that many scholars have been asking for. All I'm asking for is a little more synergy in sch game play. I should hope that's not a crime.
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    It's just that it's not that needed. Our dps is such a snooze fest compared to our 5 dots we used to have to juggle before if we make it any simpler I think I'll start wishing for harder and more frequent heal checks. And Dissipation already synergies by shaving 15 seconds of aetherflow and it isnt exactly a weak skill, just situational. Which is kinda our class theme. It's really good if you know when to use it. Also be very wary of adding any more buffs to damage or healing to us. We're already stupid powerful atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    And heaven forbid that any other healer besides whm get a buff.
    My point wasn't that SCH should get no attention, it's just that you've labelled these as QoL changes when they are actually buffs. Also, saying this as a SCH main myself, we're already the best healers at the moment so any buffing to us would be pretty unfair. At this point in time, only a buff to Selene would be justified. and even then that buff would need to be very minimal.

    You need to look at the entire kit of the jobs! And I also agree with Waemliht, it's already braindead and so much less fun than 3.x SCH.
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    I see I'm sliding back into my old salty ways. I apologize for doing so. I also appreciate the feed back everyone has given. I hadn't considered the balance implications of some of these changes. While I would like a more symmetrical cast time of Miasma and bio II I see that it would require some changes that are not needed at this time.
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