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  1. #141
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    you joke, but people with male characters have asked for it as well.
    Sadly yes but they are outweighed by the threads about wanting thoughtful male hair designs as well as thought out male glamour and not just the female glamour that is shapped differently but still ugly...

    Female characters in most MMOs get more thought put into their stuff but males usually get generic items or these butt ugly hairstyles that are categorized as unisex but is definitely for a woman :/
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  2. #142
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    Novia Marius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    you joke, but people with male characters have asked for it as well.
    I don't doubt it, but I'd imagine the louder folks yelling for it are those with female toons, and the loudest complaints about the new hair are likely those with males.

    Though I see myself using the hime hair on my lizard man, I can understand folks disappointment over the new hairstyles. 4.0 and 4.1 both had a "unisex" m/f hair. How much one liked them was a ymmv deal, but this patch is giving us short girly hair or long girly hair- If you don't like more androgynous looks you're out of luck till the cash shop updates, canals/eureka get a hair drop, or 4.3.
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  3. #143
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    I don't doubt it, but I'd imagine the louder folks yelling for it are those with female toons, and the loudest complaints about the new hair are likely those with males.

    Though I see myself using the hime hair on my lizard man, I can understand folks disappointment over the new hairstyles. 4.0 and 4.1 both had a "unisex" m/f hair. How much one liked them was a ymmv deal, but this patch is giving us short girly hair or long girly hair- If you don't like more androgynous looks you're out of luck till the cash shop updates, canals/eureka get a hair drop, or 4.3.
    I'm just gonna say.. I personally know about 5 dudes in my daily life with that short hairstyle. Maybe it's just cause asians are a majority here.. but that doesn't particularly strike me as female. It's just on a female model.

    I understand the disappointment for sure though, but "Butt ugly" is quite subjective.
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  4. #144
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    These screens are better than the ones in the micro site.



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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Depends on how you define "unisex". Everything that's not on the most extreme ends of the feminity/masculinity spectrum?
    Unisex:
    adjective
    1.
    (especially of clothing or hairstyles) designed to be suitable for both sexes.
    1.
    a style in which men and women look and dress in a similar way.

    This is how I would define unisex.

    And for the visual explanation:


    Not only is the selected hair unisex, but the other 19 styles shown on that page are shared as well.

    SE is getting lazy with the hair. Instead of designing unique styles for the sexes, they're most definitely favoring the one-size-fits-all approach.
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  6. #146
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    I disagree with you Skivvy, a hairstyle without gender restriction does not necessarily mean it looks unisex, there are masculine and feminine features regardless of restrictions. That hair you linked looks very masculine to me, and the twin buns to the right of that hairstyle looks very feminine.

    You just want to restrict who can use them for no reason, they have shown they can implement masculine or feminine hairstyles without preventing the other gender from using it.
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    Last edited by alimdia; 01-26-2018 at 11:07 AM.

  7. #147
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    At any rate, if they're running out of ideas for new hairstyles then maybe they can add some additional customisation options elsewhere?

    A lot of people have been asking for new scars and tattoos. Male characters could do with more facial hair options.

    Bushier eyebrows could be added. More make up options could be added.

    It'd certainly help increase the amount of distinct looking characters.
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  8. #148
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Not only is the selected hair unisex, but the other 19 styles shown on that page are shared as SE is getting lazy with the hair. Instead of designing unique styles for the sexes, they're most definitely favoring the one-size-fits-all approach.
    I think they're doing what we've been asking them to do for ages: just give everyone all the styles, regardless of who it might be "intended for". I'm not going to use the new hime cut any more than I'm going to use the pompadour but I like having the option. And judging by what I see when I people-watch, others appreciate the options as well. Whether the styles are masculine, feminine, or androgynous in any given patch is just luck of the draw- this time it came up feminine and androgynous. Maybe next time it'll be manly and androgynous and you'll hear people grumbling about "tomboys" and "eww men gross where's my cute hair" instead. :P
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    Last edited by Hestzhyen; 01-26-2018 at 11:23 AM.

  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I disagree with you Skivvy, a hairstyle without gender restriction does not necessarily mean it looks unisex, there are masculine and feminine features regardless of restrictions. That hair you linked looks very masculine to me, and the twin buns to the left of that hairstyle looks very feminine.

    You just want to restrict who can use them for no reason, they have shown they can implement masculine or feminine hairstyles without preventing the other gender from using it.
    Well, going back to what I said earlier - I find the majority of the unisex styles to be ugly. Obviously this is just my opinion, as I stated before. I think trying to squeeze a style onto both males and females is limiting the styles we see, and I feel we're getting bland styles as a result.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Well, going back to what I said earlier - I find the majority of the unisex styles to be ugly. Obviously this is just my opinion, as I stated before. I think trying to squeeze a style onto both males and females is limiting the styles we see, and I feel we're getting bland styles as a result.
    But my point is that not every hairstyle without restriction is trying to fit both males and females, many of them are clearly trying to fit only males, or only females, even if they allow the other gender to use it. There's nothing androgynous or masculine about the twin buns, that's 100% feminine, and I'd bet anything if they disallow males from using it the hairstyle would still look exactly as it does right now.

    It is true there are several hairstyles that are neutral, but it's not true that every hairstyle is neutral. The limitation of style doesn't exist, they have already shown they can do it.
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