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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Raiders would ruin the game if they weren't isolated to savage, because they'd be demanding everything else in the game be harder to compensate. they already are on forums, despite the fact that most people don't even care to step into hard content and never touch difficult raids; it would just make it harder for them with no benefit to anyone. And I carry raiders by healing them in rab, not vice versa. Its raiders who tend to leave stuff like that the first time where things go wrong, I leave to switch to the job they were to rejoin in progress and finish the instance. I don't complain about low dps or parses, i go in and get the thing done or we leave at the time limit or mutual abandon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Raiders would ruin the game if they weren't isolated to savage, because they'd be demanding everything else in the game be harder to compensate. they already are on forums, despite the fact that most people don't even care to step into hard content and never touch difficult raids; it would just make it harder for them with no benefit to anyone. And I carry raiders by healing them in rab, not vice versa. Its raiders who tend to leave stuff like that the first time where things go wrong, I leave to switch to the job they were to rejoin in progress and finish the instance. I don't complain about low dps or parses, i go in and get the thing done or we leave at the time limit or mutual abandon.
    Raiders this...raiders that...are you absolutely sure that everything you're complaining about is somehow the fault of raiders? You're stating a lot of absolutes, but I've yet to see either myself or other raiders ruining the game. Am I asking for content to get harder? Yes! And it's not because I'm a raider. Look...regardless of this being a themepark FF MMO, this still carries a final fantasy title, and this game is still, at its core, an RPG. And on top of that, we are Level 70! The natural order of our genre is for content to actually be harder at this point. And if you were to mention something about raiders asking for Savage level difficulty in MSQ/dungeons, allow me to counter this by saying:

    No, because that's just stupid.

    At this level, our SB dungeons shouldn't be facerollable anymore. Should it be punishingly difficult? No! But there needs to be some level of challenge associated with our level that the devs are not putting in, and it's making the general base weaker. Rather than introduce nerfs and buffs to deal with the skill gap, players just need to git gud. I hate saying that term, but truthfully, players just need to git gud. And by git gud, just do your rotations if you're DPS'ing. Actually read your skills, use your AOEs when you have a pack of 4 or more, rotate your defensive CDs as a tank, keep your gear up to date, know the difference between Medica I/Benefic and Medica II/Benefic II and when to use them - things like that.

    If the little bit I typed above, you haven't figured out by the time you hit level 70, then you need to get better as a player because at this point, this is extremely basic stuff that should've been learned before hitting the HW dungeons, or if you jump potioned, by the time you reach the first actually remotely challenging dungeon in the 4.x patch cycle in Bardam's Mettle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Seriously? You are still on this? How exactly are raiders like us ruining the game, do tell. Last time I logged in, I helped several parties out in need of a tank - in regular dungeons, that had nothing to do with raiding. So...how are we ruining the game?
    Lies!!! You are a raider, you have to be a bad person. I am joking of couse
    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    If anything it's us raiders that ensure she gets her weekly clear of Rabanastre instead of abandoning after endless Hashmal wipes, because the general populace can't do simple mechanics.

    *shrug*
    I don't think comments like this help as an argument against raiders hurting the community. I am sure you are not, but the comment sounds a bit arrogant. No offense
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Raiders would ruin the game if they weren't isolated to savage, because they'd be demanding everything else in the game be harder to compensate.
    The game is for everyone. This includes raiders, non-raiders, crafter and so and and in my opinion it would be great, if everyone would be able to understand each other and this of course counts for non-raiders aswell.


    they already are on forums, despite the fact that most people don't even care to step into hard content and never touch difficult raids; it would just make it harder for them with no benefit to anyone. And I carry raiders by healing them in rab, not vice versa. Its raiders who tend to leave stuff like that the first time where things go wrong, I leave to switch to the job they were to rejoin in progress and finish the instance. I don't complain about low dps or parses, i go in and get the thing done or we leave at the time limit or mutual abandon.
    Raider=/=Raider just like person=/=persons. You can't take all raiders and say they have the same behaviour or attitude. Let me tell you from my own experience, that i've seen every kind of behavior from raiders and non raiders. Some of them are very polite, others aren't. This may be slightly off-topic, but i had to deal with enough unfriendly new players in mentor roulette or chat. Some of them really think, because they are new, they can do everything and everyone else has to deal with it, since they are new. This kind of behavior is absolutely arrogant and ignorant. At the end of the day, this is a teamgame and one community. This means everyone, including novice players or veterans should try to respect each other.

    PS: I wonder when Square enix will update the micro site, because i really want to know if this is the raid gear
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    Last edited by era1Ne; 01-22-2018 at 10:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by era1Ne View Post
    I don't think comments like this help as an argument against raiders hurting the community. I am sure you are not, but the comment sounds a bit arrogant. No offense
    Of course I'm not being super serious. If I was I would throw numbers around. Like how my casual static, without even trying, and being on foreign jobs, easily does double the work of the other 2 alliances in a 24 man.

    Point is, this has been argued to death and nobody will ever see eye to eye. So why not just roll with this villainous raider persona that people seem to believe in and have some fun while I'm at it?

    People that actually know me know that all I want is people to play the best that they are able to.
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    Last edited by CorbinDallas; 01-22-2018 at 11:25 PM.

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    I have seen that robot from my childhood but I can't remember where is that from? Also nice of them to add the claw to achievement rewards hope we see more mounts being dumped there instead of gold saucer. 90% of the time I can't really bother even tping to gold saucer these days.
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    Oh goodness, I'm a raider and a PvPer. . . I must be like, a total monster to people :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Oh goodness, I'm a raider and a PvPer. . . I must be like, a total monster to people :/
    Aww *pat pat*

    You're no monter, to me you're the white hot machinist!
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    It has been updated again!

    New gear, minions, emotes and hairstyles.

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    They're reusing ARR relic weapon models...
    Which means, all of that work we put into them was in the end for nothing if anyone can just craft one or buy for cheap.
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