BLM Question involving Thundercloud usage.

[soulofrebirth]

Hold it until you are able to use it without it losing a Fire 4. If possible, hold onto it until your Umbral Ice phase.

I mean, it goes without saying to both. What I mean is say you get a thundercloud proc while casting Blizzard 3, got 13 seconds left on Thunder, should I use it right away (Thunder 3 > Foul > Blizzard 4 > Fire 3) or use it later (Foul > Blizzard 4 > Thunder 3 > Fire 3)?

[HaroldSaxon]

I mean, it goes without saying to both. What I mean is say you get a thundercloud proc while casting Blizzard 3, got 13 seconds left on Thunder, should I use it right away (Thunder 3 > Foul > Blizzard 4 > Fire 3) or use it later (Foul > Blizzard 4 > Thunder 3 > Fire 3)?

Use Foul first, and save Thunder 3 for the end of your Umbral Ice Phase. If you are comfortable with the mechanic, you can skip Blizzard 4 in this instance, but its not something I would recommend to people learning BLM.

[soulofrebirth]

So it IS a DPS increase to let it run its cooldown if applicable. I was doing that already but I needed to confirm it as I felt I wasn't pushing my numbers enough.

[HaroldSaxon]

So it IS a DPS increase to let it run its cooldown if applicable. I was doing that already but I needed to confirm it as I felt I wasn't pushing my numbers enough.

It is a DPS increase to hold it, but it can be a loss if you get a proc overwritten AND you finish the current phase of the fight during your Umbral Ice phase - because using a Thundercloud in AF means your rotation gets delayed by one GCD - so if you could have skipped it and got an extra Fire 4, its a loss - but it also depends on if using it earlier would lead to you losing Thunder uptime.

Its really not clear at all and is part of its problem.