Trying to water a garden plot with ps4 controller

[Caitlinzulu]

Off course its different
that doesnt mean that either is better or worse then the other one
Its all about what you are used too, you can water the plots using controller but its a semi pain to keep track of which ones you did already since there indeed seems to be no logic to what plot the targeting selects next. I usually grab my mouse for watering these days.
Same goes for combat and cannons i guess.

[Avatre]

...but its a semi pain to keep track of which ones you did already since there indeed seems to be no logic to what plot the targeting selects next..

Wouldn't using a waymark help with that? Drop it on the first one you watered(or next to it so it doesn't overlap others) and go clockwise from there?

[Rufalus]

My opinion they should redo the interface for garden beds. Instead of an interact target for each individual crop, it's just one interact target for the whole lot. Clicking this pops a settings window like the one for aquariums where you can plant all of the crops then confirm all together. Also buttons for water all, fertilise all. If it's too much stress on the servers to water 8 plants at once then just put a brief progress bar on the process after the user confirms so it's still effectively watering them one by one but without needing user input each time.

[execool]

Instead of an interact target for each individual crop, it's just one interact target for the whole lot. Clicking this pops a settings window like the one for aquariums where you can plant all of the crops then confirm all together. Also buttons for water all, fertilise all...

I think that is a cool idea...

I play on PC with a controller... I actually find it pretty easy to water my plants with a controller, I also switch to first person mode and then I select one of the corners and just do it counter clock wise. A menu based option would be better though, as individually selecting the plots is tedious

lol I think this is probably a bad suggestion but SE loves to use these AoE items for some reason... they could have a watering can item that produces a watering AOE that you target the square with.

[QueenSophie]

I water alot of gardens on ps4, and its super easy. Just face the plot and the rows. Its all about character position and how they face. Only thing is minions yes, will sometimes get in the way. feritlizing is super easy, just spam x after plant selection and you never have to use d-pad except for switching which plant. I can fertilize all 8 in a deluxe in about 10.5-11.5 seconds. water tending is a little longer.

[QueenSophie]

its a semi pain to keep track of which ones you did already since there indeed seems to be no logic to what plot the targeting selects next.

Couldn't be further from the truth. it selects what you're facing, and then goes in order from there. should be able to start at bottom right, then go up and down the rows in order, done it hundreds of times, its always in order. Again, it goes based of your character like any other targeting in the game.should be able to dpad all plants in order.

[sarehptar]

Couldn't be further from the truth. it selects what you're facing, and then goes in order from there. should be able to start at bottom right, then go up and down the rows in order, done it hundreds of times, its always in order. Again, it goes based of your character like any other targeting in the game.should be able to dpad all plants in order.

I can confirm that it does, in fact, go in order--but that the "order" includes all selectable items, even those which are not actually visible to the player and not prioritizing proximity. I have an absolutely hilarious video clip saved somewhere of my character perfectly facing a row of plants with no other clickable objects in my actual view... Only to d-pad and end up targeted to the garden plots of a distant neighboring home, behind two different walls and not even on level with my house's garden.

The only way I've ever been able to even remotely make watering plots close to painless on a PS4 was to angle the camera completely top-down to absolutely block out anything and everything else that might be clickable, and even then, unless you actively move either character or camera to face each desired row of plants individually, it's entirely possible that you will target the plant in the back rather than the one directly in front of your character. It's laughably bad compared to just clicking with a mouse.

So I just force FC mates/tenants on PC to water my plants for me. Problem solved!

[SilverObi]

I can confirm that it does, in fact, go in order--but that the "order" includes all selectable items, even those which are not actually visible to the player and not prioritizing proximity. I have an absolutely hilarious video clip saved somewhere of my character perfectly facing a row of plants with no other clickable objects in my actual view... Only to d-pad and end up targeted to the garden plots of a distant neighboring home, behind two different walls and not even on level with my house's garden.

Garden plots seem to have a higher range on the distance you can target them from, but yeah if you found yourself targeting a plot in another yard, it was technically in your actual view or to be more fair, the camera's view. That being said, can you even do stuff to other people's gardens that aren't part of your FC? If not, they should remove the option to target other gardens entirely

[sarehptar]

Garden plots seem to have a higher range on the distance you can target them from, but yeah if you found yourself targeting a plot in another yard, it was technically in your actual view or to be more fair, the camera's view. That being said, can you even do stuff to other people's gardens that aren't part of your FC? If not, they should remove the option to target other gardens entirely

Yeah, my point was that the camera's view, in this case, is definitely not aligned with the player's view. Some housing objects can be targeted through, for example, leading to numerous cases where it seems as if there is nothing selectable on the player's screen, yet d-pad targeting will find things the player can't see because of certain walls/other objects obscuring player's view but not camera's, etc. Furthermore, the lack of proximity sensing on the d-pad targeting (and I believe also the tab targeting on PC?) is pretty crazy sometimes. Ending up targeting something half-way across the screen over something less than an "inch" from your character simply because the thing in the distance was one more pixel to the screen's left is quite annoying.

I believe you can water other people's plants, but not harvest them? Not 100% on this though; every house around mine has gardening plots--but no one ever actually gardens. XD

[Vhailor]

Off course its different
that doesnt mean that either is better or worse then the other one

KB / mouse is objectively superior from a control standpoint for more or less any first-person title, or third-person titles that benefit from / feature an independently positioned camera. There's not really a "two sides" to this one unless one factors in non-control elements like comfort (playing from the couch). Similarly, in reverse fashion, games with fewer axes of movement (racing titles, platformers, etc.) are better experiences on a gamepad rather than a KB / mouse.

That doesn't mean other forms of control don't work, or aren't effective. Case in point, SE has done a tremendous job making FFXIV quite playable with a gamepad (and FFXI before it). It also doesn't mean someone used to a gamepad can seamlessly transition to a KB / mouse and instantly control the game better. But there is a "better" and "worse" at play from a precision and effectiveness viewpoint.