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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    That's true, the Othard side should have had a non-English accent for sure, that was quite jarring. It fits well for Garlemald and Eorzea though.
    Yes and no. The main reason it "fits well" is because that's what we started with and have grown accustomed to - and, well, the faux Elizabethan script. While having some characters speak with English accents is perfectly reasonable, the fact that everyone speaks with an English accent is... unrealistic, I guess is the best way to put it? I mean, there are considerable cultural differences and geographic distances between the three city-states from 2.0, to say nothing of Garlemald, which is on an entirely different continent. Having the same accent makes little logical sense, yet everyone spoke with an English accent so that's what we grew to accept as "normal" in-universe.

    ... and, well, the faux Elizabethan script would probably sound kind of awkward with any other accent. All I'm gonna say is, if we make it to the New World or Meracydia someday and everyone's still using an English accent, I'm calling shenanigans.

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    Mayhap find a different game? Not every game can be about angry Americans shouting and shooting at each other over a misplaced grilled cheese sandwich.
    Hey! I'd at least need it to be better than a grilled cheese to shoot them over it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Yes and no. The main reason it "fits well" is because that's what we started with and have grown accustomed to - and, well, the faux Elizabethan script. While having some characters speak with English accents is perfectly reasonable, the fact that everyone speaks with an English accent is... unrealistic, I guess is the best way to put it? I mean, there are considerable cultural differences and geographic distances between the three city-states from 2.0, to say nothing of Garlemald, which is on an entirely different continent. Having the same accent makes little logical sense, yet everyone spoke with an English accent so that's what we grew to accept as "normal" in-universe.

    and, well, the faux Elizabethan script would probably sound kind of awkward with any other accent. All I'm gonna say is, if we make it to the New World or Meracydia someday and everyone's still using an English accent, I'm calling shenanigans.
    My theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuriane View Post
    Mayhap find a different game? Not every game can be about angry Americans shouting and shooting at each other over a misplaced grilled cheese sandwich.
    ^ Best reply I've read for today! X'DDD

    As for the main post:
    At least give constructive criticism to your suggestions or else people aren't going to take it seriously.

    P.S. I like the British VAs, their voices fit the characters A LOT better than the ones from ARR (fake British accents *shudder*). Furthermore, I'm okay with the dialogue because it makes the story interesting and reasonable and ay, I love to read
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    I won't go and say find a new game but I will say that I respectfully disagree with the OP. Not all writing in an open world game needs to be specifically about providing immediate and relevant information for what is happening right now. General observations and comments as well as banter between characters serve the purpose of world building as well as establishing character relationships and perspectives.

    As for the voice acting, accents and so forth, much of it is thematic and intentional to the cultural leanings of the characters. Shalayans tend to be more flowery than say Ala Mhigans. Nobles tend to be more flowery than commoners. I get the impression they go for a diverse range of actors. When they change an actor it tends to have more to do with availability of the actor than anything else and in a service based game there really isn't any way around that.

    The funny thing about accents and so forth is the fact that realistically in a lot of cases, the WoL perceives language in a way we cant. After all, the WoL can understand any language even if they haven't heard it before. How does that sound to their ears? Does their brain auto translate? Do they hear it as the native language but it just makes sense in their heads? Does it sound like they are speaking a familiar language instead of what is actually being spoken? I mean, an accent wouldn't even really make sense at all if what the WoL's thinks they hear is different to the actual words being spoken.
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    Mostly, I just don't enjoy the overly elaborate language, myself. There's ways to sound eloquent and sophisticated, without having to fall back on antiquated patterns just because it sounds "fancy."
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    I mean, I'll be the first to say that the writing varies in quality (as do the voices, although the localization team seems to be at least be able to WRITE a variety of accents and dialects, even if the voices have become more homogenized post-Heavensward). That said, in no way do your complaints apply to this game as a whole. It has strong story arcs and weak ones; great characters and forgettable ones; well-executed themes, and ones that fall more flat. This is true even within individual patch series, and it's because there are a variety of writers working on the game, some of whom are better than others. If absolutely nothing has been your jam so far, I dunno what to tell you.

    Although, yeah, they could do with better cutscene directors. And maybe fewer invisible items. It always feels so weird when someone gives a big handful of nothing to someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fodare View Post
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    Time to leave if you dont like it.....
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    Go back to LOL.


    Or just do the oh so difficult task of changing the audio language to German, French or Japanese
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    Accents? Why would you play this game in anything other than JP?
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    What accents should they use? There's always the risk when using accents of getting called racist or culturally insensitive... fantasy has this sort of auto default setting when it comes to accents theatrical British speak has been the staple since forever
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