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  1. #1
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    xygar's Avatar
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    Xygar Relentless
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    Zodiark
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    Lancer Lv 70

    Account Penalties Decrease after Each year (add as a rule)

    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../blog/3684469/
    (full colour version)

    Ffxiv should add a rule were if the player doesn't break any rules at all
    for a year their penalty status should start decreasing with each passing year
    and start going back to a clean account.



    Warning
    This is only to be implemented for player i.e have used profanity/racism/harassment/
    lot of players feel reluctant to continue or buying future expansions
    or even level their character as some of them are in a red state when their account is terminated they would lose everything.the character,the levelling ,their money its like walking on egg shells. I want players to redeem themselves to continue to be part of the ffxiv community

    Not for RMT or using BOTs these players deserve no 2nd chance as they are directly involved to exploit the game.
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  2. #2
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by xygar View Post
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    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and wager that you don't get labeled "bad" until 2nd 3rd offense. (as it would be wrong to "execute" someone on first offense...unless said offense was just that blatantly wrong i guess)

    Lets be honest here....if you go that far and that deep into trouble...you kind of asked for it.

    Maybe a GM would be so kind as to elaborate how it works?
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    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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    Apple Jinx
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Nope you usually get 3 chances before you are perma banned and if people does get to that point then they 100% deserved it.
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    MatthiasS's Avatar
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    Asher Starfall
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 70
    From what I've heard, you actually have more leeway then just "mess up 3 times, you're out"
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    AFAIK they give you a bunch of chances unless you are a really bad offender with a first time perma ban in which case you probably deserved it. Not to say GMs don't make mistakes but IMO they are pretty lenient. I mean if they give players a bunch of strikes and they screwed up again more than once after being warned that is kind of on the player at that point.

    Letting strikes drop after a certain period of time would just make it so offenders can break the rules again if they felt like it which kind of makes it pointless. If it is really 3 chances for normal cases that is enough. There is still a buffer in between where players can correct themselves.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 01-14-2018 at 07:06 AM.

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    Deacon Moore
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 79
    Ya know, if you weren't a jerk in the first place, this wouldn't even be an issue...
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  7. #7
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    MatthiasS's Avatar
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    Asher Starfall
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    Ya know, if you weren't a jerk in the first place, this wouldn't even be an issue...
    Not exactly. Even casual profanity is worthy of a warning. Not all swearing is hurting anyone.
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  8. #8
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MatthiasS View Post
    Even casual profanity is worthy of a warning.
    Casual profanity is against the rules of the game though. So in SE's eyes, it's hurting people. And given this is Square Enix, a Japanese company, as in based in a country where honour and respect is so deeply entrenched into the culture it is literally an extension of them, I don't see that changing anytime soon.

    Terms of Service
    3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language.
    You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 16 and older except players who are resident in Germany, Australia or New Zealand where the Game is for players aged 12 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.
    Bear in mind this will be Japanese interpretation of "reasonable person", which I imagine is way stricter than the EU/NA interpretation of it.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Kisagami's Avatar
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    Taisynn Arghal
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 61
    Yeah, no. That’ll just let people think they get free passes for being jerks. No way.
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    Taisynn Arghal of Siren
    FC Leader of Cult of the Chocobo (18+), LGBT-Friendly Guild
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    We’re all advocating for the type of game we want to see. Mine just happens to clash with yours. I like a story driven game, where people can come together as a community, and defeat challenges based on a PVE format. I want to work together. [snip] You’re not gonna like what I say, but I’m gonna say it regardless because I want Square Enix to hear the other side.

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    Fluffy Pancake
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Believe it or not, it's really not that hard to avoid having warnings placed on your account. After 20+ years of MMO gaming I'm yet to receive a single one - why is that?

    It's because I follow the rules.
    I don't antagonize, flame, intentionally go out of my way to make others miserable through my actions or speech.

    If you, or one of your friends (who are so worried about purchasing future xpacs because they might get banned....lol) are receiving multiple warnings for infractions then perhaps it's best to modify your behavior instead of asking for flags to be removed after a year.

    It's not difficult by any means to avoid warnings/bans.
    (12)

    Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means

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