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  1. #21
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    Ramza_Wyvernjack's Avatar
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    Ramza Wyvernjack
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    Paladin Lv 64
    We already got unique LB3 for each class. Don't need unique LB1-LB2, let them work on more important stuff than some sfx you'll use twice in a dungeon.
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  2. #22
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Remember when all the LB3 were the same according to your role? Except for the special snowflake bard that had the healer LB3?
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  3. #23
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    If you do 24 man raids, it'll happen reeeeeaaaaal quick.
    Yeah, 24 mans healer Lb3 is common. Certain fights require or can meaningfully use tank Lb3 (on Savage/EX), Melee LB3s are very common in Savage/EX content, Caster/Ranged on certain fighters (although caster is strictly better, slightly more potency easier and arguably better range last I checked). But I can't say I'm surprised that some players didn't know or see these. Most 24 man content is a bit too much of a cluster for most people to tell what others are doing, and beyond that there's no 8-man normal content that requires it, many fights end without the DPS even using LB and just letting the meter sit there.

    There's even some neat logic behind the visuals. The AST LB3 actually has the player Opening the 7th Gate, the one whom quest NPCs say is either impossible or suicidal, but could potentially let them unravel existence etc. For what it's worth the Encyclopedia Eorzea (lorebook) has a blurb/description for each.
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    Last edited by CosmicKirby; 01-15-2018 at 05:03 AM.

  4. #24
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    Yeah, 24 mans healer Lb3 is common. Certain fights require or can meaningfully use tank Lb3 (on Savage/EX), Melee LB3s are very common in Savage/EX content, Caster/Ranged on certain fighters (although caster is strictly better, slightly more potency easier and arguably better range last I checked). But I can't say I'm surprised that some players didn't know or see these. Most 24 man content is a bit too much of a cluster for most people to tell what others are doing, and beyond that there's no 8-man normal content that requires it, many fights end without the DPS even using LB and just letting the meter sit there.

    There's even some neat logic behind the visuals. The AST LB3 actually has the player Opening the 7th Gate, the one whom quest NPCs say is either impossible or suicidal, but could potentially let them unravel existence etc. For what it's worth the Encyclopedia Eorzea (lorebook) has a blurb/description for each.
    My guess people do see them, they just do not know what they are. In 24 man it is not uncommon to see a caster or range LB from someone outside someone's party. They just don't know enough about the game what they are seeing, or pay attention to it.

    For those that do not know, even role wise, like healing LB 3, SCH, WHM, AST look way different, same for tanks.

    https://youtu.be/-5qpF8NhSwk
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 01-15-2018 at 08:21 AM.

  5. #25
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    Kisagami's Avatar
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    Taisynn Arghal
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    Siren
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    Xygar, are you just... completely unhappy with everything in this game? You want dozens of things changed without rhyme or reason other than it looks cool. And why does every one of your forum posts have to have a blog link? I don’t even bother looking at them. I come here for forum posts, not giving you shameless views.

    Also everyone already has their own LB3 so...
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  6. #26
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    Xygar, are you just...
    Literally just advertising his blog of shower thoughts without organizing them or even searching to see if the same topic hasn't already been made and contributing to it
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Literally just advertising his blog of shower thoughts without organizing them or even searching to see if the same topic hasn't already been made and contributing to it
    He thinks himself an “idea artist.” Xygar, It isn’t art if you haven’t put any work into it yourself. You have no idea what some of these things entail for our current environment and specs, and giving links from Anime without any spin or storyline suggested for how it would fit in our environment. And not only that, doing half these things you suggest could get Square Enix in trouble if they humored you: they son’t own the intellectual property rights to copy every concept from Anime and other games. They’ll be seen as mooching, rather than being innovators of their craft. They’d need to improve upon the concept, or drastically change it to aboid being called a blatant copycat.

    Plus... half your concepts in other threads would make this game lose what makes it its own game. Unique. A new, unknown ezpedience. I don’t want a bunch of the same. I wanna have my mind blown by how amazing something new from SE’s own creativity.

    Hell, this one you didn’t even think through or research beyond “here’s a picture, do this.” Unique Limit Breaks are already IN the game.

    You... may also want to research Japanese Copyright law.
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    Last edited by Kisagami; 01-15-2018 at 08:29 PM.
    Taisynn Arghal of Siren
    FC Leader of Cult of the Chocobo (18+), LGBT-Friendly Guild
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    We’re all advocating for the type of game we want to see. Mine just happens to clash with yours. I like a story driven game, where people can come together as a community, and defeat challenges based on a PVE format. I want to work together. [snip] You’re not gonna like what I say, but I’m gonna say it regardless because I want Square Enix to hear the other side.

  8. #28
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    He thinks himself an “idea artist.”
    Yeah ideas are easy, implementation is a far different matter. Everyone has ideas and they're nothing special in fact most are bad. Even the decent ones end up being redundant or fall under "hey this would be neat if.." without any regard to other systems or reasons for not being added already.
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  9. #29
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    Tal Young
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    I'd prefer Summoner LB3 to be a powered up summon Bahamut instead of a powered up Dreadwyrm Trance. Other than that though the current LB set up is fine.
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I would love to have 2 LBs per job, 1 offensive 1 defensive.

    As healer It's so frustrating when i ask to the dps to use the LB once, twice, third times..and still no reaction....
    This all day.
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