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    Saradina's Avatar
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    Smile This is how I made gil for a big house.

    Just want to share this method with everyone:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGcfxwhJp68

    Thank you for watching please leave a comment if you wonder something or if you've got something to complain about.

    I made about 10 million gil / 3 days on Cerberus EU with this method.
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    Video is 4 months old though.
    I don't know Cerberus but materia market pretty crashed unless you lucky on getting crafting materia.
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    Yes it is, but I tried to do it this week to see if it still worked on Cerberus and lo' and behold I made 10 million gil.

    Of course it's a bit RNG but still in the long run it's not, the thing which sells for more than 5 cheap materia VI are craftman + gatherer (about 500-600% profit. Savage aim and might about 100% profit and quickarm about 20-30% profit) those are 11 different materias and together you'll get 3860% profit in 11 materia then there's the "shit" materia which you will lose 80% of the value those are elemental and the stat stuffs so if my math is correct those are 9 different materia. So (3860/11) - (20x9) = 170% net gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradina View Post
    Yes it is, but I tried to do it this week to see if it still worked on Cerberus and lo' and behold I made 10 million gil.
    Well, gratz, but there are easier ways to make gil. xD And much faster. Selling wind/lightning crystals will net you a lot. Probably not as much as it did a month ago (when a friend was making a million per hour) but they're still worth gil and you only need to be lvl 25 in bot/min. I'm not criticizing. It's just the RNG factor. You might as well send your retainers on endless quick ventures in hopes of getting something worth a ton.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    From these expensive materia types alone one would gain (on average!) 166k for every 100k worth one puts in the transmutation. The small amount of gil from the cheaper types of materia is extra on top of the 166k. If you want to be precise you can do the calculation using all 19 types of materia you may receive from the transmutation.
    The prices of materia are crashing fast. I'd suggest you save them until 4.2 comes out. They'll be releasing new recipes and there will be a rush on getting the materia then because, for the most part, the only stuff you can craft right now is the crafter/gatherer set. I know a lot of other people are waiting buying or making a set until 4.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
    The prices of materia are crashing fast. I'd suggest you save them until 4.2 comes out. They'll be releasing new recipes and there will be a rush on getting the materia then because, for the most part, the only stuff you can craft right now is the crafter/gatherer set. I know a lot of other people are waiting buying or making a set until 4.2.
    Not just that, any crafting materials that are currently being used will most likely be in high demand in 4.2. Patchday always nets me 10s of million. Just do it smart and don't flood the market
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    this method is good to make money in a long run with some fund (if your luck is not reallyyyy badddd)
    but it's mostly luck-based and not recommended for people with low fund unless you wanna go "win big or lose everything" route.
    also it's better to put in 4-5 different types of junk/cheap materia because that increases the odds of getting red/crafter/gatherer materia.
    please note that the outcome will always be different from the materia you used...
    so in the vid you are very lucky to not get many other stat materias or elem res ones.

    ps. check server's market first.. for me...i tried to make sure that my 5 try on transmutation will cost less than 1 crafter/gatherer's
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    Quote Originally Posted by etherian View Post
    also it's better to put in 4-5 different types of junk/cheap materia because that increases the odds of getting red/crafter/gatherer materia.
    please note that the outcome will always be different from the materia you used...
    This is correct. I'd like to add that one should also only use materia of the same grade (I-VI) because the result will usually be the lowest grade that was used (sometimes a higher grade procs).

    There are 24 types of materia. If 5 different types are used in the transmutation, that leaves 19 possible materia types as a result. The chance to get a specific type of materia is therefore 1/19. Multiply this with the price of each materia on your server and add up those values to estimate your total winnings.

    Example from my server:

    Dex VI, Int VI, Mind VI, Pie VI and Quickarm VI are 20k gil each. Total cost is 100k gil, so we want to win more than that on average from transmutations. The best resulting grade VI materias and their prices are listed below.

    Savage Aim Materia: 130k
    Savage Might Materia: 100k
    Heaven's Eye Materia: 120k
    Craftsman's Command Materia: 714k
    Craftsman's Cunning Materia: 660k
    Craftsman's Competence Materia: 650k
    Gatherer's Guerdon Materia: 370k
    Gatherer's Guile Materia: 410k

    Multiply the prices by 1/19=0.05263 and add them up.

    0.05263 * (130k+100k+120k+714k+660k+650k+370k+410k) = 166k

    From these expensive materia types alone one would gain (on average!) 166k for every 100k worth one puts in the transmutation. The small amount of gil from the cheaper types of materia is extra on top of the 166k. If you want to be precise you can do the calculation using all 19 types of materia you may receive from the transmutation.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 12-18-2017 at 07:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    This is correct. I'd like to add that one should also only use materia of the same grade (I-VI) because the result will usually be the lowest grade that was used (sometimes a higher grade procs).
    Thanks for all that math! Very helpful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by etherian View Post
    this method is good to make money in a long run with some fund (if your luck is not reallyyyy badddd)
    but it's mostly luck-based and not recommended for people with low fund unless you wanna go "win big or lose everything" route.
    also it's better to put in 4-5 different types of junk/cheap materia because that increases the odds of getting red/crafter/gatherer materia.
    please note that the outcome will always be different from the materia you used...
    so in the vid you are very lucky to not get many other stat materias or elem res ones.

    ps. check server's market first.. for me...i tried to make sure that my 5 try on transmutation will cost less than 1 crafter/gatherer's
    I've actually done just this and gotten elemental or stat materia several times, so although it might seem to increase your odds, it isn't an absolute method of prevention for getting those types.
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    Last edited by Sakuraluna; 12-26-2017 at 01:11 AM.


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    Yes I agree you need a small budget, but just buy some cheap DoH and DoL gears next to the market board and sell them for a profit to get a nice economy flowing:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqwM6XeSBz4
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