No need for jump potions

[Vidu]

Basically, is that jump potions doesn't are detrimental to the game, because how easily you can get 'thru the content today. And maybe this also some kind of invite to play, and enjoy, all the game without skipping parts of it because the "fear" to be slow on catching up is quite misplaced.

Edit: and as Quintina and Lilseph pointed up, if you play so low as a couple hours a day or less, you really don't need to "skip" anything, because at that rate you cannot think to keep up with the "front lines".

Okay, let me re-phrase: I dont understand what your "target audience" is. People who are buying jump potions to skip the MSQ (or leveling process, depending on what kind of potion we're talking about) for the first time and not for an alt character arent the one reading the forums anyways.
The people here are most likely the ones who are dedicated to the game anyways, like you and me and who wouldnt consider buying a jump potion for that reason to begin with.

Ofc no one needs a jump potion. Some people may still want them. And as long as they look up how to play before entering content, thats fine. We dont have to share their views and choice, but we also dont get to tell them "You dont need this". If thats how they're having fun with the game, thats alright. Its legit not wanting to play through the story - odd choice and nothing I understand, but legit. Just because you dont want/need to skip the story because you enjoy playing it and have enough time on your hands, doesnt mean that everyone shares that. What they do after they've skipped the story... is up to them. Maybe they cant keep up and quit eventually - if they want to waste some money before then... their choice. Maybe they get into the game once they've reached the more intresting parts (lets face it: ARR-story had such terrible length in it your example... and all the time people around you are doing all this "cool stuff" and are talking about raids, and primals and dungeons and gear that you cant get to for at least another 3 months) and up their playtime or find ways to succed.

Bottomline: No one might need a jump potion. But no one needs chocolate either and I'll still go and grab some now. Because I want to.

[Tempest222]

I mean that’s kind of a long time. Thats close to 100 hours of playtime. It’s not like you can play for 4-5 hours a day and be done after four days. Plus someone brand new to the game is probably going to take longer than someone going through on a second+ character.

Anyway, I think it’s strange to want to skip huge chunks of the game regardless, especially if you are brand new to the game. Isn’t playing the game the whole point of the game? It’s not s race.

[Enla]

I mean that’s kind of a long time. Thats close to 100 hours of playtime. It’s not like you can play for 4-5 hours a day and be done after four days. Plus someone brand new to the game is probably going to take longer than someone going through on a second+ character.

Anyway, I think it’s strange to want to skip huge chunks of the game regardless, especially if you are brand new to the game. Isn’t playing the game the whole point of the game?

It is if you have no one waiting for you, but if you have friends you want to play with /now/ and they're already max level it can be discouraging to certain people to have several dozens of hours worth of play game that they need to bridge before they and their friends are at the same level. It isn't the case for everything and the beauty of FF is that you can always have the other friends level alongside the newbie and take them through the content. Yet not everyone is willing to wait.

[RichardButte]

proof

Lawl.

No, that's not what the word "proof" means. You actually proved that the MSQ takes an egregiously long time and more than most people will ever want to grind through, especially while their friends are waiting at level cap.

Jump potions are here to stay. Deal with it.

If you find jump potions unnecessary that's perfectly fine! However this thread has a thinly veiled sense of derision for those who have used them without considering the individual wants and needs that might have gone into that choice.

This.

I thought the whinging about jump potions "ruining the game" was over but I guess not. This elitist nonsense about "everyone should be forced to play the story because it hurts my love for FF if they don't" needs to die in a fire...

Can't speak for everyone, but 96 hours of my life is worth well more than $25.

[Tridus]

Not sure anybody has ever argued they "need" a jump potion.

"Want" one? Lots of people. I know someone who doesn't want to level another job because they have more money than time and 1-50 is boring as all hell to level because you have so few abilities.

That's the target market for jump potions, at the end of the day.

[LalaRu]

Well, the point was about the blame put on the potions about player skills level is quite misplaced, but I didn't made it clear in OP. My bad.

Did a bit of OP edit. Nothing against the potions themselves, they are a huge time shortcut and I've nothing against it.

[Aethaeryn]

Most people who buy jump potions are alts of people who have already done the grind before anyway.

I recently rush-leveled through 1-70 on a new character, and I was only a little over 5 days play time (1-50 on war and 50-70 on samurai) by the time I completed Stormblood. But you also have to consider opportunity cost here. For example, at the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour in the United States, 5 days (120 hours) of work is $870 - enough to buy 17 story skips to SB+level 60. A lot of people would probably rather pick up a few hours of extra work and spend some of that 120 hours spending time with friends and family or other hobbies rather than repeat the MSQ wall a second or third time or fourth time.

I personally enjoy the grind, though. D:

[Metdevil]

4 days? As in 96 hours of in-game time?
Yea, I think that backfired. I'm not considering using any jump potions, but I only get a few hours of gaming in each day, and ~100 hours for me is easily a month's gaming. If I was considering making an alt, I'd definitely consider a jump potion now that I'd be looking at 100 hours to get up to speed...

[hynaku]

Only jump potion I would buy is if it let me jump to the moon. Otherwise not worth buying.

[Awful]

I mean I have friends that don't care about the story and just wanted to do endgame, they bought jump potions are are actively raiding and leveling alts so to them jump potions were great as they didn't have to invest time and skipping cut scenes. It's why SE came out with them because there's a market for people who don't wanna sit through hours of story and cut scenes and wanna jump into the action with their friends.